50 CD + combined 51 weapon has more potential than lower than 50 CD + overcapped weapon


so:

50+17CD, 34+17 weapon

will out dmg

39+17CD, 38+17 weapon

any given time, unless you use pierce styles 99% of the time - which most don't when they have access to 50 CD (I know I didn't on my NS)

nixian wrote:50 CD + combined 51 weapon has more potential than lower than 50 CD + overcapped weapon


so:

50+17CD, 34+17 weapon

will out dmg

39+17CD, 38+17 weapon

any given time, unless you use pierce styles 99% of the time - which most don't when they have access to 50 CD (I know I didn't on my NS)

How so ? Having more than 50 composite spec only increases weaponskill, and weaponskill neither increases damage nor defense penetration on uthgard (does it do anything ?).

over 51 combined weapon spec gives added dmg to style bonus

and ofc over 51 combined CD gives more chance to hit with offhand = more dmg + more style dmg

nixian wrote:over 51 combined weapon spec gives added dmg to style bonus

and ofc over 51 combined CD gives more chance to hit with offhand = more dmg + more style dmg

Nix u make a strong case for trying 50CD .

Assuming you were to go 50CD, how would you do it? Do you think having 50 CD will make up for lost DPS from Path? Would ur stealth have to be so low that it is completely ineffective?

If lvl 50 styles use base weapon spec for style dmg calc, then going 50 CD instead of 44CD is only netting you an additional 6 points for your style dmg modifier. If you are high enough RR this may not be a problem, but at lower RRs the amount of spec points you are spending to raise from 44-50 is much better spent on getting your PF where it needs to be and ensuring you have composite 50/51 base weapon and stealth.

Horace wrote:

nixian wrote:over 51 combined weapon spec gives added dmg to style bonus

and ofc over 51 combined CD gives more chance to hit with offhand = more dmg + more style dmg

Nix u make a strong case for trying 50CD .

Assuming you were to go 50CD, how would you do it? Do you think having 50 CD will make up for lost DPS from Path? Would ur stealth have to be so low that it is completely ineffective?

it depends a lot on RR really.. personally I would never give up 40 path or combined 50 stealth for a few more CD points

Sup Hibs,

I'm still working on my Ranger. I know shocker another stealther in he Hib realm. Sorry it's in my blood I was going to be a minstrel but seen you guys needed more help then they did. Ok, since this is my first attempt at a build and reading the other class builds. I'm think that for low realm rank this is my best options. I would appreciate some feed back to tell me if it would work or not.

My thoughts behind this is as follows:

Stealth - 39 +11 for 50 total. I'll be going MoS right a way.
Path Finding - 40 Bare minimum for 2nd to Last Dex / Quick
Pierce - 25 for Diamond back. Keep this as my evade stunner.
CD - 44 More off hand hits = more dmg in a fight.
Bow - 12 Autotrained

Ok so, my thoughts for fights would be either open with a side style and work that string. Or open wih a back attack. Or should I open with bow shots till they come with in melee? Thoughts on PvP openers. I'm just now 18 on Hib. So, say hi to Emetah in game if you want

Thanks in advance,

Havick_T

PS I'm also working an Animist by the name of Fungusboy for realm defense as well so i can help with both Melee and Caster a like.

youre gonna have huge dmgvariation with your weapons...

Satz wrote:youre gonna have huge dmgvariation with your weapons...

Because of the low Peirce?

Havick_T wrote:

Satz wrote:youre gonna have huge dmgvariation with your weapons...

Because of the low Peirce?

yes, you need composite 50 or 51 weapon. You shouldn't be RR1 coming out of thidranki, you should be RR4, so you should have +14 to your skills. If you are going MoS3+ to start you should be able to get away with 35 + 14 stealth.


If I were you, I would either go;

42PF (last shield)
35 Stealth
39 CD
35 pierce
rest bow


or


42PF
35 Stealth
29 CD
44 pierce
rest bow


or drop PF to 40 (trade away last spec AF) and raise CD in either spec.

Havick_T wrote:

Satz wrote:youre gonna have huge dmgvariation with your weapons...

Because of the low Peirce?

always have your Main weapon = 51 so a 39+12 pircing ^^

Use all the BGs and Cap out and make sure your a mini of RR4l0 before Reaching lv 50

this will alow you to get

Pircing 37+14
Stealth 36+14
Path 40
Auto bow 12
and rest in CD i think it should be around 39+14 ^^ this is the starting set up i used untill i hit RR5

Excellent info guys thanks!

walked a longtime with
50 cd
36 stealth
31 pf
and 33 (?) not sure
+14 all

and i do without 51 pierce
tadaaa 5-8 lesser dmg
but as opener i use everytime sidechain
and well pwned more and higher rr then now
with 44 cd

the bad thing on 50cd is that many sb/infils
will evade the supernova
so it is your choice

and a tip
use pierce as weapon cause of
str/con debuff u will deal dmg like a green mob if u are debuffed

so hf

Night wrote:walked a longtime with
50 cd
36 stealth
31 pf
and 33 (?) not sure
+14 all

and i do without 51 pierce
tadaaa 5-8 lesser dmg
but as opener i use everytime sidechain
and well pwned more and higher rr then now
with 44 cd

the bad thing on 50cd is that many sb/infils
will evade the supernova
so it is your choice

and a tip
use pierce as weapon cause of
str/con debuff u will deal dmg like a green mob if u are debuffed

so hf

Indeed, I do remember that part from my minstrel hehe
great tips though sir thank you!

Anyone did test on Uthgard if supernova is bugged?