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Postby Seyha » Apr 05, 2011 17:11

Ronian wrote:PA and CD and the fight is over vs most of the opponents. 90% of the Assassins have purge3 so the slam or instant stun wont save you. Especially Assassins are the better match up vs minstrels because of their better dps (higher gr and poisons vs some more buffs...). So I cant agree with you Seyha.


How many times does an assassin land PA on another stealther? Its mostly luck against anything but a Minstrel, who will just SoS away, and the assassin has no way to catch him. A Ranger can follow with speed shout and because the staff refuse to fix a bug/exploit he can use a DD charge to break the minstrel's speed after SoS and catch him.
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Postby Ronian » Apr 05, 2011 17:15

Seyha wrote:
Ronian wrote:PA and CD and the fight is over vs most of the opponents. 90% of the Assassins have purge3 so the slam or instant stun wont save you. Especially Assassins are the better match up vs minstrels because of their better dps (higher gr and poisons vs some more buffs...). So I cant agree with you Seyha.


How many times does an assassin land PA on another stealther? Its mostly luck against anything but a Minstrel, who will just SoS away, and the assassin has no way to catch him. A Ranger can follow with speed shout and because the staff refuse to fix a bug/exploit he can use a DD charge to break the minstrel's speed after SoS and catch him.


Most Minstrels roam with speed so its very easy to get PAed. Mostly I get PA when using my speedshout to flee from the stealther zerg or FGs and you cant see the Infs fast enough...

The exploit works the other way around too. Just get realmspeed and break the ranger speed and your speed wont break, so dont accuse rangers as exploit users.

Speedshout is the only way to get extreme kiting minstrels when they get away by moc mezz or sos. And they can still rupt you while running away and at the same time using their focus mezz without even facing you. So no way to attack them with bow.

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Postby Seyha » Apr 05, 2011 17:33

Ronian wrote:Most Minstrels roam with speed so its very easy to get PAed. Mostly I get PA when using my speedshout to flee from the stealther zerg or FGs and you cant see the Infs fast enough...


A PA is not an instant kill. The Minstrel still has the ability to win or escape after a PA.

The exploit works the other way around too. Just get realmspeed and break the ranger speed and your speed wont break, so dont accuse rangers as exploit users.


Did I say Rangers were the only one's who exploit this bug? No. I exploit this bug, because it has been reported a dozen times over the past year and the staff haven't fixed it.

Speedshout is the only way to get extreme kiting minstrels when they get away by moc mezz or sos. And they can still rupt you while running away and at the same time using their focus mezz without even facing you. So no way to attack them with bow.


The Nightshade doesn't even have the option to pursue, and I have caught many Minstrels that have SoSed away so it is possible. If the minstrels rupts you while he has SoS up then shoot him in the back. If his health is low (he is trying to escape from you) then you have a chance to kill him before he runs out of range.

Another option the NS doesn't really have (pew-pew with your DD).
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Postby Blue » Apr 05, 2011 18:06

Seyha wrote:because the staff refuse to fix a bug/exploit he can use a DD charge to break the minstrel's speed after SoS and catch him.

Could you point me when and who refused the fix and where the bug was reported?
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Postby Seyha » Apr 05, 2011 19:45

Blue wrote:
Seyha wrote:because the staff refuse to fix a bug/exploit he can use a DD charge to break the minstrel's speed after SoS and catch him.

Could you point me when and who refused the fix and where the bug was reported?


I apologize for using the word "refuse," that wasn't fair to the staff. I'm only expressing my frustration over having a bug report go unanswered when players are actively exploiting this bug.

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