The topic name says it all. I had my mind made up on going for 50 blunt, for the after parry stun. But then I read this thread: http://uthgard-server.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=13394 where people are saying that you get ~25% chance to block on Uthgard even with no shield skill. From that I figured I can get a decent chance to stun people even wih blades, the way things are on Uthgard now. Also, that made me wonder is it better to go blades for the 39 style (Spectrum blade) to have a basically anytime slow effect on people.
What I`m probbably interested most is how often, in pecentages, will I parry with parry skill at about 20?

keep in mind that the slowed effect is not snare but haste debuff.

Im a healwarden, just with 19 blades or something like that. Enough for sidestyle and fireblade anytimer.

poplik wrote:keep in mind that the slowed effect is not snare but haste debuff.

I am aware of that. So, again, how often will I parry with parry at 20?
The toon will prolly be Celt, if that helps the calculation.
P.S. I know all this might sound quite noobish, but I can`t figure it out myself.

unless you spec a lot(20+items+rr) into parry, youll be blocking more.

Also you must remember that it is in fact NOT an after parry stun; it's the 2nd style of the after parry chain (Stunning Blow -> Devastating Blow), so your chances of successfully landing that stun are even more diminished because not only do you have to parry but also not miss two hits in a row.

Waste of time. Just make anything else than warden (bm or eld or vale or menta). Its completely wasted slot in group unless you are dumb enough to play fulltank group in caster realm...

But as regards specs go 49 nurt 42 heal 8 blades or so for group play(blades cause of sidesnare) -> wardens got no damage anyway

For soloing spec 50 blunt 38 nurt rest parry and moparry2-3 at least.

Shav wrote:Waste of time. Just make anything else than warden (bm or eld or vale or menta). Its completely wasted slot in group unless you are dumb enough to play fulltank group in caster realm...

But as regards specs go 49 nurt 42 heal 8 blades or so for group play(blades cause of sidesnare) -> wardens got no damage anyway

I have a BM on well on his way to 50, and I was looking for something to play when I get bored of him, or can`t get a decent group.

Shav wrote:For soloing spec 50 blunt 38 nurt rest parry and moparry2-3 at least.

I might try that spec, thats something along the line of what I wanted to roll.

How about you run your bm solo?
There is barely a better meleeclass for solo, as each realms lighttank with some pots/charges.

Well, speed casters are actually better if played correctly, but too many natural enemies(stealthers) around.
You could also try valewalker. Decent dmg, good def and lifeleechcast on grey mobs for full HPs. The only disadvantage are low HPs and purge3 als prerequisite else youll die vs most opponents.

Shav wrote:Waste of time. Just make anything else than warden (bm or eld or vale or menta). Its completely wasted slot in group unless you are dumb enough to play fulltank group in caster realm...

But as regards specs go 49 nurt 42 heal 8 blades or so for group play(blades cause of sidesnare) -> wardens got no damage anyway

For soloing spec 50 blunt 38 nurt rest parry and moparry2-3 at least.

Pft, bubble, backup heals, AoG II-III, purple resistances. Sure Wardens aren't the monsters they are on live now, but they are still decent. Also a lot of times people think you're a druid (wear a small shield TEE HEE) allowing your other druids to have less pressure.

As for those specs, eh at the first one. 10 blades is the side snare. I actually had this spec for a while, but then I was just a quite gimpy druid and terrible fighter. As for second spec, any Warden worth his salt has (like bards) at least 10, if not more, into regrowth. The Blunt stun is nice though.

My current spec is 49 nurture, 33 regrow, 29 blades, rest parry. I have found this to be my favorite in this setting. I can fight very decently, I have the best buffs/bubble/resists/damage add. Your heal you get at 33 is very nice, heals for 383 (if you want to get Wild Healing, which I wouldn't recommend really, but if you wanted to see big numbers...) You could get that. With some luck you'll crit heal for like 560. You styles also will take 30% less endo, and you have a very minor HoT on yourself all the time (which soloing I have found saved my life a few times).

As for how this is in groups, well as group warden my main job is to harass the healers and casters, pulse bubble or damage add, backup heal, pretend to be the druid, actually damage (O:! perma celerity is not a laughing matter). Oh also, that block > stun style in blades is a godsend. What I do is I use attacks with med-high defense bonus. That way guaranteeing a block or parry (lol bubble). Then hit them with the stun. If you time it right, you can cast TWO greater heals on yourself even with just your own dex buff. That's about 800 hp.

Now I know this server is cookie cutter central, especially in Hibernia where half our classes are just PvE farming classes, but I really enjoy my Warden in RvR. I've never really thought I was useless with all the stuff I can offer. Only thing I complain about is no group heal like a bard, or lol, you know block spec like live. Oh well, AoG III is a lot of fun.

Also Satz is wrong. I have 3 parry (+14), and I parry way more than I block thanks to dex. I still block decently enough (sometimes laughably too much), but I parry more. And I have no RR dedicated to parrying.

Also, Warden was probably one of the easiest classes in PvE. As you can fill so many roles leveling up. And the Damage Add is godmode (or was, dunno how it preforms now with the recent patch )': ) in groups when fighting purples. Soloing is seriously cake. There is no downtime. Granted the killing can be on the slow side depending on spec, but you have your hax yellow end regen self buff, can heal yourself to full in a few heals, then you're ready to fight again.

idk I like this class a lot. Sure it doesn't fit EVERYONE BE BLADEMASTERS routine that Uthgard likes, but it's fun. :3

Oh yeah, one more thing, as a warden you're guaranteed a spot in any PvE raid. Just that simple. Great for if you wanna try and get raid items.

50 blut 38 nurt, 14 reg, rest parry


best spec for soloing

Broagunk wrote:idk I like this class a lot. Sure it doesn't fit EVERYONE BE BLADEMASTERS routine that Uthgard likes, but it's fun. :3

I would say the opposite : warden fits only in blademaster spams setups.

With casters, warden is totally useless : you have menta for 2nd demezz (so you don't need resists that much), aog is useless, and in fight it just brings nothing. And tank setups tend to suck most of the time on hib, so I agree that warden is useless - in good setup

Especially with old RAs (which is what i would plan for) wardens are inferior to a third druid (more rupt, better healing, better RAs) or a second bard (same reasons + demezz, not even lacking resists) in pretty much every setup. Not even getting into other classes here.

Fudge it, I`m rolling one as I write this.
Gonna go 39 blades, 49 Nurture, 14 Regrowth, rest parry.

versasm wrote:Fudge it, I`m rolling one as I write this.
Gonna go 39 blades, 49 Nurture, 14 Regrowth, rest parry.

bad one. youre going to kill nothing @ rvr.

50 blunt with 10 sec after parry stun + side chain is kinda op 1on1