Hello everyone.

I've been observing the situation on Midgard since the server relaunch and for the most part it's exactly what I've expected it to be, and it's not really positive. I won't get into what's wrong with the server, let's just say that daoc is an acquired taste even if you're not dealing with ridiculously long horse routes and mindless time sinks of various kinds. What ultimately follows is that the population will drop significantly within 2 years or so and that the only people who will stay will be people who stayed before the uthgard 1.0 shutdown with perhaps some new reasonable people who will take the game for what it is and enjoy it.

I am trying to slowly reform the old Wrath of Tyr alliance from uthgard 1.0. At its peak it was the biggest alliance on Midgard and as the server population dropped, our numbers were still relatively high but most people knew each other and were able to communicate normally and have some fun. From what I've observed on uthgard 1.0 and 2.0, most alliances fall into two categories. First ones are the elitist alliances where big nerd egos clash every day, and those are usually filled with insecure people with tiny penises. The other kind is the "let's all be friends and invite 10.000 people" alliances, those are normally full of people who expect that everything will be done for them. Both have one thing in common, they are not very stable and for the most part, there are very few mentally stable and mature people there.

We're looking to form an alliance where people will take the game less seriously, but will be serious when we're doing something together. We're not looking for mentally unstable role players, which means alliance will mostly be a good communication platform for xp groups or anything else. We're not looking to recruit any guilds that have more than 10-15 members and those members should know each other well. Also, we're not looking for more than 2-3 guilds to begin with. Some people will quit, change realms, eventually go to genesis or some other server etc., so we're looking for guilds that will stay on Uthgard/Midgard. It will take 1-2 years for this to fully take effect, but that's ok.

Rules/guidelines:

- Political correctness is not our thing. You're welcome and even encouraged to curse, talk about eating ass and tell nasty real life stories(no matter how offensive they might be to someone) etc. Any insult you might type is fine, as long there is positive energy behind it and you're not trying to put someone down or be nasty for no reason. We don't like people who choose to be offended at everything.

- If you really HAVE to articulate something in your native language to another member of the alliance, do it but stick to English for the most part.

- If you have a guild member who wants to start discussions how a well played thane is a better def tank than a warrior or any conspiracy theorists who think Uthgard staff is somehow screwing Midgard over, please demote them to a rank which is not allowed to talk in the /as chat.

- We don't care if you're an 8v8 elitist, zerg player, pve nerd or anything else, as long as you respect others. In other words, if your style of play is somehow in a conflict with another guild or player, just approach them and discuss it. If you prefer "red is dead" mentality, that's fine, but if another guild in the alliance asks you nicely not to add their fights, please don't. It won't kill you not to get those few rps and everyone will be happy. Also, if a member of another guild somehow breaks any pact you might have, don't blame the entire guild, more often than not it's an honest mistake or just one bad apple. Don't give people ****** about how they choose to play the game, as long as they respect the way you choose to play it.

- Again, the alliance is mostly here because we no longer have the broad/trade/lfg channels we used to have. Don't expect anyone to do anything for you. We're looking to create a nice community where you will be immune to starter guild diarrhea chats or FOR THE REALM communist mentality. Eventually we will organize some raids, but please have patience. The level of retardation is still way too high for our minds not be damaged by it. By this I mean 200 people dragon raids or SH raids where you have 90 people and 40 of them are lvl 1-20 and afk, 20 other people who are decent level are also afk since the very beginning and so on. Once the population drops slightly and things get sorted out, we'll start organizing relatively small but effective raids. As far as xp groups go, please no afkers or leeches also. If we make a SH zerg xp raid, I'm totally fine with people bringing a level 20 character as long as that character is active and there are a few high level active characters in the group as well. Other than that, you will have to organize yourselves. Like Barzini said in The Godfather, we're not communists.


Anyway, there are a few more details to discuss but this is it. Feel free to send me on Teenage in game or send anyone in the Einherjar guild and they will notify me.

So, firstly you moan that there are only 2 alliance types, while simultaneously emulating both. We're not and elitest alliance but only guilds that fit this mold are allowed in. We hate alliances that invite anyone and everyone but you're welcome no matter who you are!!!


Can we get a slow clap all up in here??

Gohan wrote:So, firstly you moan that there are only 2 alliance types, while simultaneously emulating both. We're not and elitest alliance but only guilds that fit this mold are allowed in. We hate alliances that invite anyone and everyone but you're welcome no matter who you are!!!


Can we get a slow clap all up in here??

I clearly said I'm trying to rebuild an old alliance with known guilds. [MOD EDIT: I Will play nice]

Valfar wrote:

Valfar wrote:

Gohan wrote:So, firstly you moan that there are only 2 alliance types, while simultaneously emulating both. We're not and elitest alliance but only guilds that fit this mold are allowed in. We hate alliances that invite anyone and everyone but you're welcome no matter who you are!!!


Can we get a slow clap all up in here??

I clearly said I'm trying to rebuild an old alliance with known guilds. .

Why are you quoting yourself, though?
Btw, posts on a public board on the internet, but doesn't ask people for their opinion.

[quote="Valfar"]Hello everyone.

I as long as you respect others.

We're looking to create a nice community






Seems legit.

This post is truly astounding.

Decrying elitists whilst being one yourself. Claiming that most people in other alliances are 12 year old nerds with tiny dicks whilst exhibiting that same sort of elitist and childish behavior yourself. Posting in a public forum and then replying to accurate criticism with childish repartee because you are incapable of forming an argument. This is a public forum, by posting it here you are posting to everyone.

You claim there is a lot of mental illness in other alliances....seriously, read your post again and try to work out who is truly mentally ill.

Your hypocrisy is amazing. Midgard is better off without the Wrath of Tyr alliance.

Canoeman wrote:This post is truly astounding.

Decrying elitists whilst being one yourself. Claiming that most people in other alliances are 12 year old nerds with tiny dicks whilst exhibiting that same sort of elitist and childish behavior yourself. Posting in a public forum and then replying to accurate criticism with childish repartee because you are incapable of forming an argument. This is a public forum, by posting it here you are posting to everyone.

You claim there is a lot of mental illness in other alliances....seriously, read your post again and try to work out who is truly mentally ill.

Your hypocrisy is amazing. Midgard is better off without the Wrath of Tyr alliance.

You clearly haven't been on uthgard long enough, bro. People I was trying to reach will get the message. No elitism here, nobody cares about skill level, style of play etc., as long as you're a normal person. Sorry, but too many people on the server expect things to be done for them, ask stupid things about 15 year old game, join guilds and alliances or even only xp groups just to leech and put little of no effort. I clearly said I was trying to rebuild one of the old alliances, so anyone from Frenchs Connection, Draghi Del Nord and some other guilds will know what I'm talking about. Even in alliances with most normal people, the amount of messages per day regarding conspiracy theories about the staff clearly screwing midgard over, deliberately nerfing some classes etc. is astounding. Towards the end of uthgard 1.0 we were able to reduce that to a minimum in our alliance, so I want the same here. Our alliance was one of the very few that actually stayed loyal to uthgard and never bought into the genesis hype. But that's beside the point. Speak when spoken to.

I've played on Uthgard 1.0 and now on Uthgard 2.0 - this isn't about dick measuring - I don't care who you THINK you are and whatever currency you think that affords you to talk down to people.

What I take issue with is your post is hypocritical - you claim to be against elitism but in your reply you just tried to insinuate that because you played on Uthgard 1.0 you are somehow better and I must be 'new' here because I don't recognize why you're apparently so great. Secondly you claim that you don't like people asking questions you deem 'stupid' about a 15 year old game - a statement that in itself shows your elitist nature.

What I'm saying is, your perceived image of yourself and what you're trying to sell does not line up with your own words and what the type of person they have shown you to be - you are a walking hypocrisy.

Once again, you are posting on a publicly viewable forum, by posting here you are speaking to me and everyone else who visits this forum or has an account. So to tell myself and others to "speak when spoken to" is incredibly redundant - you are speaking to me and every mid player out there.

From your responses I can already tell you are not fit to lead a guild, let alone an alliance. It is quite clear you are immature and lack the ability to understand yourself - regardless of your ability to understand others. I would wager that there is a reason that when Uthgard 2.0 launched there is a reason Wrath of Tyr didn't immediately reform and I have little doubt that you are one of the reasons.

I do not decry the reasoning behind what you are attempting to do, but the way your have gone about it is stupid and oxymoronic. In your initial post and subsequent replies you have shown yourself to be guilty of every sin you levied against the current midgardian alliances.

Why would anyone want to join an alliance to get away from a certain type of player, when that alliance is lead by the type of player they are trying getting away from?

Best of luck "bro"

Canoeman wrote:I've played on Uthgard 1.0 and now on Uthgard 2.0 - this isn't about dick measuring - I don't care who you THINK you are and whatever currency you think that affords you to talk down to people.

What I take issue with is your post is hypocritical - you claim to be against elitism but in your reply you just tried to insinuate that because you played on Uthgard 1.0 you are somehow better and I must be 'new' here because I don't recognize why you're apparently so great. Secondly you claim that you don't like people asking questions you deem 'stupid' about a 15 year old game - a statement that in itself shows your elitist nature.

What I'm saying is, your perceived image of yourself and what you're trying to sell does not line up with your own words and what the type of person they have shown you to be - you are a walking hypocrisy.

Once again, you are posting on a publicly viewable forum, by posting here you are speaking to me and everyone else who visits this forum or has an account. So to tell myself and others to "speak when spoken to" is incredibly redundant - you are speaking to me and every mid player out there.

From your responses I can already tell you are not fit to lead a guild, let alone an alliance. It is quite clear you are immature and lack the ability to understand yourself - regardless of your ability to understand others. I would wager that there is a reason that when Uthgard 2.0 launched there is a reason Wrath of Tyr didn't immediately reform and I have little doubt that you are one of the reasons.

I do not decry the reasoning behind what you are attempting to do, but the way your have gone about it is stupid and oxymoronic. In your initial post and subsequent replies you have shown yourself to be guilty of every sin you levied against the current midgardian alliances.

Why would anyone want to join an alliance to get away from a certain type of player, when that alliance is lead by the type of player they are trying getting away from?

Best of luck "bro"

Like I said, spend a few years here and you will understand much better what I'm talking about. I never said anyone was better than anyone, just that there are things we are TRYING TO AVOID because these things tend to show up every time when a new alliance is formed or any server relaunches. As far as the alliance goes, it was pretty much dead before the old leader gave me the lead cause he had to take a long break from the game, and it was doing very fine after that. Also, nobody was ever invited to any of my raids without me explaining in detail what they need to do and then typing the general stuff in group or battlegroup afterwards. If we were full, I saved the spot for them the next raid and our success rate on everything was more than 99%, so plenty of people got templated and rich, and we were doing it with minimum amount of people. Any arrogance or "elitism" you might see in my words is just a side effect of dealing with leeches and people who think that somehow it's ok for them to afk or do nothing every single time we organize something. Like I said, all will be clear to you once you spend enough time here and have to deal with communists, leeches, people with a crazy sense of entitlement etc.

P.S.

Feel free to rant more and bump my thread, it's greatly appreciated. Also, if you are in any way interested in baking cakes, I got a few mean recipes for some unique cakes and also various kinder/ferrero products that taste almost as good or better than original. Anyway, peace BRO.

Congratulations, you understand how a forum works - welcome to the early 90s.

I understand full well that replying means the post gets bumped to the top - it also means that the idiocy of your words is still on full display to everyone.

Your reading comprehension could use a little work too, as I already stated I was an active player on Uth 1.0 I already know the trials and tribulations that lie ahead as the community matures and people start leaving and the weight of carrying lazy players - I don't take issue with your solution, I take issue with your hypocrisy.

You did little to counter the points I levied against you and instead just heaped on more childishness, once again proving yourself to be everything you claim to hate in your initial post.

I do not need to wait for things to become "clear" as time goes on because we can wait until the world's end and your post will still be hypocritical.

You were the leader of the alliance at the end of Uth 1 and there was seemingly no rush to reform as soon as Uth 2 launched - that says it all.

In closing and for the final time I'll try to explain to you - if you want to stay away from childish, "mentally ill", elitists then stay away from the mirror.

Peace out broski

Canoeman wrote:Congratulations, you understand how a forum works - welcome to the early 90s.

I understand full well that replying means the post gets bumped to the top - it also means that the idiocy of your words is still on full display to everyone.

Your reading comprehension could use a little work too, as I already stated I was an active player on Uth 1.0 I already know the trials and tribulations that lie ahead as the community matures and people start leaving and the weight of carrying lazy players - I don't take issue with your solution, I take issue with your hypocrisy.

You did little to counter the points I levied against you and instead just heaped on more childishness, once again proving yourself to be everything you claim to hate in your initial post.

I do not need to wait for things to become "clear" as time goes on because we can wait until the world's end and your post will still be hypocritical.

You were the leader of the alliance at the end of Uth 1 and there was seemingly no rush to reform as soon as Uth 2 launched - that says it all.

In closing and for the final time I'll try to explain to you - if you want to stay away from childish, "mentally ill", elitists then stay away from the mirror.

Peace out.

Of course there was no rush to reform it, why would I? So many people recruited million people in their guilds and alliances, many players have other names or play on other realms or are not even playing. Wise thing to do is to wait and see who will stay and for now invite 2-3 guilds. Send me if u need cake recipes bro.

Valfar wrote:

Gohan wrote:So, firstly you moan that there are only 2 alliance types, while simultaneously emulating both. We're not and elitest alliance but only guilds that fit this mold are allowed in. We hate alliances that invite anyone and everyone but you're welcome no matter who you are!!!


Can we get a slow clap all up in here??

I clearly said I'm trying to rebuild an old alliance with known guilds. .

Were you typing this on your phone, and were you trying to be polite and say Dawg but instead it auto-corrected?

Good luck with your alliance, hope it works out! =)

Bump for glory

I've run with Einherjar on Uth 2.0
Clean, profitable and efficient runs with clear roles and responsibilities
Would highly recommend