Hi,

I can't seen to get my head fully around auto training and was wondering if someone knowledgable could help me?

I've made a warrior and from what I've gathered, if I lvl up speccing axe, I will still get my auto train points in hammer and swords.

At lvl 50 I can respec axes and then use my 12 bonus points in hammer/ swords and top them up, giving me 3 extra points in parry.

I'm getting confilcting statements when I sear the forums on this.

Some people are saying even if you do a full respec at 50, you keep the 12 at points in all weapons, and others are saying once you respec, you loose them. I've also heard that you only get at points if you lvl without speccing in any weapon.

Help!!

Khefru wrote: I've also heard that you only get at points if you lvl without speccing in any weapon.

This is correct.

As warrior the only way to get ´´real´´ free points u shall go thrown weapon til 48...
Other way is only splitspec at final (but NOT while level)

No you can spec hammer for lvling and still get AT points in sword and axe. those points will remain in those lines even if u respec, so u ll end up with 12 sword and 12 axe "for free".

For a warrior it's all or nothing for AT, due to the fact that all three weapon lines are auto trained. You can spec hammer as you level up and respec to axe if you want, but it would be the same as if you hadn't autotrained at all.

The "free points" will be negated because hammer will automatically be bumped to 12 skill (for level 50) upon respec, but instead of using "free points" it will use the 77 spec points that you would have gained from autotraining.

TL;DR If you spec hammer for leveling and respec to axe at 50, it would be the same as just specing axe while you level up.

This Thread explains how AT works

This has a post showing how the current AT system punishes those who do not AT

You could spec full shield rest parry for leveling. Sword gets a taunt at 6 (like level 24 with AT i think) skill and you can group fine with that. Plus guard works wonders, and if you have trouble keeping aggro off another tank just protect them and keep taunting. Or just use side styles and guard the other tanks.
Use a crafted weapon and shield (keep em up to date!), and after level 20 get procs put on your weapons. Look for mobs weak to your weapon type as well. I bet you'll able to solo in braemar using shield styles and you can pick up MoB3 to help with leveling.

Thanks for the helpful answers. Looks like its a high defensive warrior for me through my levels. Should be fun

I just realised that in a moment of carelessness, I trained parry to lvl 32. instead of stopping at 31.

Can I respec the parry line without ruining my auto train lines? If so does the trainer give me a free respec at 48 or do I need to get a respec stone?

Khefru wrote:I just realised that in a moment of carelessness, I trained parry to lvl 32. instead of stopping at 31.

Can I respec the parry line without ruining my auto train lines? If so does the trainer give me a free respec at 48 or do I need to get a respec stone?

At level 40 you can do /respec Parry and all your other lines will stay as they are.

You are also able to use a full respec and never loose your AT points as these points are "stuck" into their lines.

Trishin wrote:At level 40 you can do /respec Parry and all your other lines will stay as they are.

You are also able to use a full respec and never loose your AT points as these points are "stuck" into their lines.

phew!
Thankyou for the response. I thought I'd wasted my time leveling up to 34 with really low weapons skill.

pweet wrote:No you can spec hammer for lvling and still get AT points in sword and axe. those points will remain in those lines even if u respec, so u ll end up with 12 sword and 12 axe "for free".

AT as a warrior is in the old-AT system really dumb...
if you want to get the FULL benefit(77 pts per AT-line) and want to use it, you have to spec nothing untill lvl48.
if you spec for example in hammer, you will get AT for sword and axe, BUT benefit=zero.... because if you respec hammer, the 77 points will remain in hammer and cant be specced to zero because its also an AT-line
so there is nothing for free (only if you use a splitspec, but than you gain also the half-benefit)

Yep, it's been pretty tough going with such low weapon skill. As a lvl 34 Warrior, I have 8 points in weapons now from auto train, but trying to keep aggro off a zerker (or even a warrior who isn't auto training) is nigh on impossible. It's a slow road, but I'm enjoying the challenge of autotraing and it still doesn't seem as hard as it was 10 years ago just normally leveling the Hero