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please respec for pet classes

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Laza Warder Posts: 27 Joined: Dec 15, 2011 18:18	by Laza » Jul 18, 2012 16:56 spirit master with summoning skill is not playable since the patch (bugfix ?) wit the pet damage. please give us a respec.

Austerim Alerion Knight Posts: 2743 Joined: Dec 15, 2010 16:27	by Austerim » Jul 18, 2012 17:01 No. [3:10pm] <myrmidon^> You have to be a c*** to be awesome at daoc [3:10pm] <myrmidon^> that's what I learnt [3:11pm] <Frosty_> then why does austerim suck lordgriffon wrote:Oh by the way... ever seen a group of 8 smite clerics? Or play against a group like that? I have. Absolute devastation. The group that runs up against them can't kill them fast enough because smite clerics have sooooooo many tools at their disposal combined with decent ranged damage with 8 of them dudes doing it!

HulkGris Phoenix Knight Posts: 1256 Joined: Jan 23, 2012 19:48	by HulkGris » Jul 18, 2012 17:16 What ? Pet damage are fixed and buff on pet are not ? But Blue said that both bug couldn't be fixed separatly. RIP : Ectoplasme My own version of Uthgard Character Builder

Blue Developer Posts: 15822 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	by Blue » Jul 18, 2012 17:18 Laza wrote:spirit master with summoning skill is not playable since the patch (bugfix ?) wit the pet damage. please give us a respec. What?? You must be joking. Playing with a huge obvious bug the whole time and demanding a respec after fix? Try to play a hunter with his pet and you will see what weak means. @Hulkgris: He talks about intercept fix which reduced incoming damage by 70%. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

adjuchas_brokk Myrmidon Posts: 129 Joined: Jul 18, 2011 20:34	by adjuchas_brokk » Jul 18, 2012 18:17 Laza wrote:spirit master with summoning skill is not playable since the patch (bugfix ?) wit the pet damage. please give us a respec. Hi Laza, I totally agree with you regarding the playability of the summon spec SM, in it's current state it's unable to fight it's way out of a wet paper bag in PvE and worthless in PvP. I ended up having to respec mine to dark. My advice to anyone currently using the summon spec would be: respec to anything else until pet buffs work correctly.

HulkGris Phoenix Knight Posts: 1256 Joined: Jan 23, 2012 19:48	by HulkGris » Jul 18, 2012 18:44 adjuchas_brokk wrote:I totally agree with you regarding the playability of the summon spec SM, in it's current state it's unable to fight it's way out of a wet paper bag in PvE and worthless in PvP. I ended up having to respec mine to dark. My advice to anyone currently using the summon spec would be: respec to anything else until pet buffs work correctly. This post should be read by all new players (page 4 for updated info) viewtopic.php?f=65&t=2703&start=45 The author of this thread is no more here, so the post still have the "Outdated" tag in title. Need a split from page 4. I could update it then. RIP : Ectoplasme My own version of Uthgard Character Builder

majky666 Phoenix Knight Posts: 1470 Joined: Feb 10, 2010 01:00	by majky666 » Jul 18, 2012 21:56 You got trolled

Celteen Alerion Knight Posts: 2326 Joined: Dec 20, 2010 16:52	by Celteen » Jul 18, 2012 23:41 adjuchas_brokk wrote: Laza wrote:spirit master with summoning skill is not playable since the patch (bugfix ?) wit the pet damage. please give us a respec. Hi Laza, I totally agree with you regarding the playability of the summon spec SM, in it's current state it's unable to fight it's way out of a wet paper bag in PvE and worthless in PvP. I ended up having to respec mine to dark. My advice to anyone currently using the summon spec would be: respec to anything else until pet buffs work correctly. Hrhr your avatar is epic ^^ <<< This avatar is handmade by Inotor Wurzelbert : ) Check out the Mampfer-Threads for more. viewtopic.php?f=10&t=25079 viewtopic.php?f=10&t=26934

_Oglop_ Phoenix Knight Posts: 1414 Joined: Dec 10, 2010 05:24	by _Oglop_ » Jul 19, 2012 03:55 Blue wrote:[. . . ] Try to play a hunter with his pet and you will see what weak means. Ye', I've been leveling a Hunter. . . "Bleed"ing Damage! "It's not fair unless I'm winning!"

borog Phoenix Knight Posts: 1087 Joined: Oct 23, 2008 00:00	by borog » Jul 19, 2012 09:58 and a hunter pet still hits harder than a BD pet

Lasastard Phoenix Knight Posts: 1180 Joined: May 28, 2009 00:00	by Lasastard » Jul 19, 2012 10:19 Well, in all fairness - bug or no bug - on live server respecs were given out if a major change was implemented that significantly affected the playability of certain classes/specs. The fact that intercept was bugged was not the players fault, but the staffs, and was - in the context of the server - not a bug fix but a patch (since the high intercept rate has always been this high here and didn't accidently change as far as I know). So yeah, spirit masters should get a free respec imho.

HulkGris Phoenix Knight Posts: 1256 Joined: Jan 23, 2012 19:48	by HulkGris » Jul 19, 2012 11:05 In all fairness, buff on pet should be fixed now. I don't understand why it works with mob damage fix. Blue wrote: I have collected enough information to at least have a picture of what the original formula is. But that doesn't mean it will be fixed right now. It will be fixed when mob damage is fixed as it works together. RIP : Ectoplasme My own version of Uthgard Character Builder

Blue Developer Posts: 15822 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	by Blue » Jul 19, 2012 14:04 Lasastard wrote:Well, in all fairness - bug or no bug - on live server respecs were given out if a major change was implemented that significantly affected the playability of certain classes/specs. The fact that intercept was bugged was not the players fault, but the staffs, and was - in the context of the server - not a bug fix but a patch (since the high intercept rate has always been this high here and didn't accidently change as far as I know). So yeah, spirit masters should get a free respec imho. There will never be free respecs for bugfixes. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

adjuchas_brokk Myrmidon Posts: 129 Joined: Jul 18, 2011 20:34	by adjuchas_brokk » Jul 19, 2012 14:20 Celteen wrote:Hrhr your avatar is epic ^^ Thanks HulkGris wrote:In all fairness, buff on pet should be fixed now. I don't understand why it works with mob damage fix. Blue wrote: I have collected enough information to at least have a picture of what the original formula is. But that doesn't mean it will be fixed right now. It will be fixed when mob damage is fixed as it works together. The only pet buff that seems to work correctly is the haste buff, I've not noticed any improvement from the others.

Lasastard Phoenix Knight Posts: 1180 Joined: May 28, 2009 00:00	by Lasastard » Jul 19, 2012 15:00 Blue wrote:There will never be free respecs for bugfixes. Fair enough, but the question remains whether this was a bug fix or not. If you compare it to live servers 1.81 or even 1.69 - then yes, it was a bug that got fixed. If you compare it to the server as is, then it was an adjustment that was made to change the effect of an ability. On live servers, this warranted a free respec for the affected classes. My point was that, when in doubt, you should make a decision for the players, not against them (i.e. give them a free respec). There is a fair number of people on Uthgard that have no live-server experience; for them the pet bahavior was 'normal'.