Hi,

is the Bonedancer AE Dot in the Bone Army Speccline on Uthgard the same like the Ae dot from Menta and Kabbalist?

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The AE Dot of the Bonedancer according to the table damage, the damage is less than the damage of the Mentalist and Kabbalist.

Is it the same here or was it just Uthgard changed?

I've never met anyone brave enough to roll a BA BD as they only get two useable spells on Uthgard; Dot and AOE Dot.

The lack of pets means you are going to find it hard to be as effective as a Supp BD witht he lifetap.

If its the DOT's you want, you may as well roll a cave sham as the DOT damage is greater and the other skills a shaman has outperforms what skills the BA BD has.

but then its your choice and each to his own.

So is the Shamis dot dmg definitely higher than that of the bonedancer?

It is. In the very beginning of DAoC they designed realms to share many abbilities but distributed them differently between the classes. This counts for AE-DoT too. BD is SI. So yes, that's how it's intended

Lanzina wrote:So is the Shamis dot dmg definitely higher than that of the bonedancer?

the thing is, shamans almost NEVER spec high enough to get THAT high of an AE dot. i think you'd be better off going with a BA bonedancer, if it's farming you want to do.

my shaman's blue AE dot only hits blue mobs for like 59 damage. not really all that damaging if you want to farm mobs.

Ok so damage for shaman vs BA BD AoE

Shaman Grey (17): 31 body dmg per tick, 6 ticks
BD Grey (20): 21 matter dmg per tick, 5 ticks

Shaman Green (23): 41 body dmg per tick, 6 ticks
BD Green (26): 28 matter dmg per tick, 5 ticks

Shaman Blue (29): 53 body dmg per tick, 6 ticks
BD Blue (32): 34 matter dmg per tick, 5 ticks

Shaman Yellow (36): 65 body dmg per tick, 6 ticks
BD Yellow (38): 41 matter dmg per tick, 5 ticks

Shaman Red (46): 83 body dmg per tick, 6 ticks
BD Red (47): 51 matter dmg per tick, 5 ticks

As you can see all you need to do is spec to lvl 23 cave in order to match (243 vs 255) damage that the BD aoe gets at lvl 47!

Clearly a cave shaman is better than BABD for aoe damage

single target dots are the same story. The best a BD can get is 55 damage, where as the cave sham can get 87 damage.

Then you have to consider resistances. BD's use matter of which Plate and Scale is 10% resistant, and leather is 5% resistant. Although Studded and reinforced is 5% vulnerble.

Shaman Spec Dots use Body damage, which is neutral to all armour types.

IMO not only do your dots hit naturally harder on a sham but they are reduced less due to resistances.

borog wrote:Then you have to consider resistances. BD's use matter of which Plate and Scale is 10% resistant, and leather is 5% resistant. Although Studded and reinforced is 5% vulnerble.

Shaman Spec Dots use Body damage, which is neutral to all armour types.

hm i think resist types against armors are ONLY for leg. weapons and not spellcasts!

hmm not sure tbh, mayube your right, ill need to test it.

i also noticed that i said that sham aoe was body when its matter damage..

its late and im tired and cba to change it now

Magicco wrote:

borog wrote:Then you have to consider resistances. BD's use matter of which Plate and Scale is 10% resistant, and leather is 5% resistant. Although Studded and reinforced is 5% vulnerble.

Shaman Spec Dots use Body damage, which is neutral to all armour types.

hm i think resist types against armors are ONLY for leg. weapons and not spellcasts!

Leg weps and bolts, correct.