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Valfar
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Postby Valfar » Oct 09, 2017 10:16

Stressed wrote:
pweet wrote:Evern to difficult to organize yourself? Takes 2min to make an evern grp. If that's already too much I guess a solo game might fit better :oops:



The post was about the Dragon, I mentioned Evern/green knight in passing figuring they were tough , if they aren't no big deal but doesn't stop the post being about the Dragon...see post title


Dude, you seriously need to stop crying. You mentioning Evern gives us a lot of insight about you. You didn't even ask around to find out what it takes to kill the mob, so your mentality is pretty obvious right there. I joined the server in the late 2011. after not playing the game for almost 10 years. I joined a dead guild and never left it, I rebuilt it. Yes, I was lucky in meeting some cool guys who were good players and patient enough to answer my questions, but I would never had met them if it weren't for me organizing DF runs and xp groups. I wasted my time looking for proper classes to form any kind of group, I stuck to what I knew and expanded on that. And again, I actually asked the questions. By 2012. I was leading all the dragon and legion raids. So if I could do it, you can do it.

It takes time and effort though. Start with your small group of friends and before doing anything, make sure people know what's their role and keep an eye out on them. Before building any groups for anything, don't take random retards. Make sure they speak English and understand what you're trying to say. Again, if it's a multiple group raid and you think some guys are good players but have bad English, have a person from their country explain it. If you ask nicely, 99% of people will do it. Put your friends as group leaders of other groups and make sure you have 3-4 decent guys in every group. Even for simple raids sometimes you have to do a lot of yelling and typing because people don't pay attention, but in time the pool of players who know what to do without being told expands, and you only need to keep an eye on newcomers.

Nobody owes you anything. This is a computer game and you're not paying for it. If you work and pay taxes, you expect to have benefits from those taxes and it's fine to complain if your benefits are not as stated. If you pay car or health insurance and they don't want to cover something you have in your package and are paying for, it's absolutely your right to complain. A day has 24 hours and nobody is online for 24 hours, most mobs pop multiple times if killed and anyone who is willing to put some effort in and organize themselves can absolutely do it. You can't log on and complain you're not getting invited to do stuff. Nobody is obligated to provide you with a public raid of any kind, people have the right to choose what they will waste their time on, and if they want to create an environment where they play with only known people or a few unknown individuals at best, it's their right. For all I care, they can even be douchebags. I won't play with them and that's that.

Like I was saying, people complain how they never get invited anywhere and then admit they didn't even try to do anything themselves. Not saying this about you, but that's the general mentality. I've lead way too many raids and always built my xp groups and it's my choice who I will invite or not. Too many times I've had situations in lowbie groups where shaman would waste all conc on first 3 guys he buffed, gave himself ****** acuity and then said: GTFO, let's get this show on the road, I'm OOC. Or in raids, I would waste my time explaining ****** for 10-15 minutes just to have people who have the simplest job screw up miserably.
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Stressed
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Postby Stressed » Oct 09, 2017 15:12

Valfar wrote:
Stressed wrote:
pweet wrote:Evern to difficult to organize yourself? Takes 2min to make an evern grp. If that's already too much I guess a solo game might fit better :oops:



The post was about the Dragon, I mentioned Evern/green knight in passing figuring they were tough , if they aren't no big deal but doesn't stop the post being about the Dragon...see post title


Dude, you seriously need to stop crying. You mentioning Evern gives us a lot of insight about you. You didn't even ask around to find out what it takes to kill the mob, so your mentality is pretty obvious right there. I joined the server in the late 2011. after not playing the game for almost 10 years. I joined a dead guild and never left it, I rebuilt it. Yes, I was lucky in meeting some cool guys who were good players and patient enough to answer my questions, but I would never had met them if it weren't for me organizing DF runs and xp groups. I wasted my time looking for proper classes to form any kind of group, I stuck to what I knew and expanded on that. And again, I actually asked the questions. By 2012. I was leading all the dragon and legion raids. So if I could do it, you can do it.

It takes time and effort though. Start with your small group of friends and before doing anything, make sure people know what's their role and keep an eye out on them. Before building any groups for anything, don't take random retards. Make sure they speak English and understand what you're trying to say. Again, if it's a multiple group raid and you think some guys are good players but have bad English, have a person from their country explain it. If you ask nicely, 99% of people will do it. Put your friends as group leaders of other groups and make sure you have 3-4 decent guys in every group. Even for simple raids sometimes you have to do a lot of yelling and typing because people don't pay attention, but in time the pool of players who know what to do without being told expands, and you only need to keep an eye on newcomers.

Nobody owes you anything. This is a computer game and you're not paying for it. If you work and pay taxes, you expect to have benefits from those taxes and it's fine to complain if your benefits are not as stated. If you pay car or health insurance and they don't want to cover something you have in your package and are paying for, it's absolutely your right to complain. A day has 24 hours and nobody is online for 24 hours, most mobs pop multiple times if killed and anyone who is willing to put some effort in and organize themselves can absolutely do it. You can't log on and complain you're not getting invited to do stuff. Nobody is obligated to provide you with a public raid of any kind, people have the right to choose what they will waste their time on, and if they want to create an environment where they play with only known people or a few unknown individuals at best, it's their right. For all I care, they can even be douchebags. I won't play with them and that's that.

Like I was saying, people complain how they never get invited anywhere and then admit they didn't even try to do anything themselves. Not saying this about you, but that's the general mentality. I've lead way too many raids and always built my xp groups and it's my choice who I will invite or not. Too many times I've had situations in lowbie groups where shaman would waste all conc on first 3 guys he buffed, gave himself ****** acuity and then said: GTFO, let's get this show on the road, I'm OOC. Or in raids, I would waste my time explaining ****** for 10-15 minutes just to have people who have the simplest job screw up miserably.



What you say makes perfect sense, I am just embarrassed I cried, tbh I cried for ages, then decided to come here and moan and complain and cry more, i hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me and overlook my crying, especially for my error in not asking about Evern and then showing in my writing this my mentailty, which you and the 'us' identified is obvious..I hope the Us don't juge me to badly for an error...

I respect your climb from humble player to raid leader over a 10 year period and wish I had your luck, having people with patience to answer my questions, unlucky for me i just got trolls and patronising types judging my mentality, I get it though....I cried to much...by mentioning the DR's are a closed shop (even if they are...)...It almost makes me weep now tbh...

Your right no-one owes me anything! If somehow i have implied they do I apologise and withdraw it, through my teary eyes...I also stated several times I am not complaining but you still feel I am, which makes me sad...enough to ....weep more....I am sorry you thought I was complaining and withdraw that too...snuffling into my tissue

Your 100% correct why share!!! No-one has to, you have your small band of pals and you should just play with them if you choose and watch the server shrink until it shuts..I am again sorry If I implied we all had the common interest of a game and it may have been fun to play it together...my bad...I am undoubtedly a weepy type and probably a douchebag too...heh I wouldnt even group with me!

I respect your last paragraph fully, on my shaman at level 12 I did buff badly having come back as you did after circa 10 years, but thankfully i read up and now I buff pretty well...I am lucky in that I can learn, many can't and being exclusive is safest and preventative from them being in a group with you, in fact being in a group and making any error...like mentioning evern, scares me...

So now inspired....I have decided to put away my tissues and stand tall, I will spend the next 10 years building my small team of men and we will conquer DF, then raid other places until one day in 2027 we will take the Dragon down and never a tear shall run down my cheek again, Thank you Teenage!

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patouch
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Postby patouch » Oct 09, 2017 16:21

in the meantime, experpise and exeregum stones are back to reasonnable prices!

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Postby Valfar » Oct 09, 2017 16:27

Stressed, please read with understanding. I did not play for almost 10 years and it took me less than a year to get a pool of 50 players for raids, which expanded to 100+ players within the next few months. Also, many people who come to dragon raids I didn't even knew a week or two ago, and they're from many different guilds and alliances.
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Postby Eorkern » Oct 11, 2017 11:29

Is Stressed trying to be a humorist or something ?

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Postby Eorkern » Oct 20, 2017 21:44

You guys are killing it daily still ? I can't keep up with Flump dragon kills

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Stressed
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Postby Stressed » Oct 27, 2017 14:50

Yes they kill it regularly,

The Dragon on Midgard is known amongst non DR killers as Teenages dragon,

On here Valfar/Teenage says, "get a group", "learn to kill it", it took me a year to make my team...

But in reality What i have been told is Arakiel tried to start a public DR a short while ago so Teenage insta summoned his clique and they rushed and killed it..

No-one now cares about the Dragon except Teenage & his pals
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Postby Liah » Oct 27, 2017 14:55

If Teenage knew that there was another DR going on, he would've let them take the dragon - as he has done before when I think Badastro had started a raid?

Teenage can't just ''summon'' his Raids.. It's usually 1-2 Hours waiting for the right classes to come online.

As far as i've heard there was an open BG for a DR yesterday but noone actually cared to take a look if the dragon is even up, which it wasn't.
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Valfar
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Postby Valfar » Oct 27, 2017 14:59

Stressed wrote:Yes they kill it regularly,

The Dragon on Midgard is known amongst non DR killers as Teenages dragon,

On here Valfar/Teenage says, "get a group", "learn to kill it", it took me a year to make my team...

But in reality What i have been told is Arakiel tried to start a public DR a short while ago so Teenage insta summoned his clique and they rushed and killed it..

No-one now cares about the Dragon except Teenage & his pals


Stop crying mate. Arakiel spammed that day when I already had 23 people, most of them in Skona. How stupid are you to actually think I can "summon" people instantly? A lot of preparation goes into this, I need to ask people in the morning when they are available and make sure they can come. Aren't you like 40 year old or something? Get a ****** life and a hobby, really :D. And seriously, grow out of this communist bullshit propaganda, you're old enough. What kind of a term is "non DR killer"? In my mind, that means people who did not take the time to test the dragon and were not able to get enough people willing to waste their time trying. We took our time, so we kill it. We won't do it forever either and I mostly do it for the stones, so I don't have to pay for them.

I also don't take anything for myself, unlike previous "public" dragon raid leaders who went to skona, announced a public raid, waited for groups to form on their own(some of the groups having idiotic setups because they didn't care to monitor or anything, and rather just zerged the dragon), then moved to dragon and kept all the salvage for themselves. Add to that multiple flame wrought rings, belts and soulbinder's belts that dropped on those raids, they all went to those "leaders". Some of them did dozens of raids, that's a whole lot of money in salvage and drops for zero effort invested. I log in the morning before I run RL errands, I send a bunch of people and make sure they can come, I make a ****** list of classes every day and often ask regulars to relog on a different class so we can add someone and so on. I also take my time to build proper groups and make sure people have enough potions and everything else.

Also, they were too lazy to properly distribute loot so they got it into the heads of people on midgard that 1 skill respec is worth the same as 5x RA, which makes no sense. Midgard has only 2 autotrain classes, and both are capable of leveling to 48 without wasting stones, and RA stones are generally used more because people take some augstat or similar abilities just as fillers on their way to certain RA specs. Midgard logic at its finest. Again, stop with your communist crap already and stick to what you know for sure and leave your idiotic subjective opinions for yourself.
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Stressed
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Postby Stressed » Oct 27, 2017 15:03

Liah wrote:If Teenage knew that there was another DR going on, he would've let them take the dragon - as he has done before when I think Badastro had started a raid?

Teenage can't just ''summon'' his Raids.. It's usually 1-2 Hours waiting for the right classes to come online.

As far as i've heard there was an open BG for a DR yesterday but noone actually cared to take a look if the dragon is even up, which it wasn't.


Liah your in Flumps guild, which is the clique killing the Dragon,

I think its good you support the people you play with , gg

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Postby Stressed » Oct 27, 2017 15:05

Valfar wrote:
Stressed wrote:Yes they kill it regularly,

The Dragon on Midgard is known amongst non DR killers as Teenages dragon,

On here Valfar/Teenage says, "get a group", "learn to kill it", it took me a year to make my team...

But in reality What i have been told is Arakiel tried to start a public DR a short while ago so Teenage insta summoned his clique and they rushed and killed it..

No-one now cares about the Dragon except Teenage & his pals


Stop crying mate. Arakiel spammed that day when I already had 23 people, most of them in Skona. How stupid are you to actually think I can "summon" people instantly? A lot of preparation goes into this, I need to ask people in the morning when they are available and make sure they can come. Aren't you like 40 year old or something? Get a ****** life and a hobby, really :D.



Oh Teenage......sob

sob

sob......

How did you know I was crying again.....i even got snotty I cried that hard....

You don't have a camera near my pc do you....!!!!!

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Postby Liah » Oct 27, 2017 15:06

Yes, also I told about 10 people who asked me if they can join the DR to talk to teenage and guess what? All except the Bd (which isnt needed) got to join.

Maybe you should try that instead of crying on the forums? Only people who talk can be helped.
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Postby bruts » Oct 27, 2017 15:26

When i read this, i am glad, i still have my Stones from the Time were are Public Raids almost daily. Other Drops already sold for good Plats.
Peace out..
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Postby Stressed » Oct 27, 2017 16:12

Which 10 people Liah....what a load of Bull

its the same 24 killing it...that's simple to see /who malmo

Less BS please mate, and well commented re crying I am sobbing like a new born puppy

Or.....

Was I trying to have an adult discussion, which you sadly cannot have with simpletons because the moment you challenge thier view on something e.g. their insular exclusive DRs, which is true, but a little sad, they insult you ASAP...stating you are crying...or blah blah blah, learn to communicate like adults,

** Adults don't need to lie about 10 new DR players

** Adults don't need to state someone is crying when they have a different view

You guys...huh. for people who must be over 30 to still be writing on forums when someone voices an alternate view that they are crying....

Grow up

(Note: I am certain a following post below will be >

'Eorken puts on his Forum Troll suit,'

... having written 3500 posts on the forums amounting to very little, other than kiddie troll like comments and a states something like...is Stressed being an adult...in response Eorken I am and won't write with you kids anymore...)

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Postby pweet » Oct 27, 2017 16:49

you stated several times that you wont reply anymore cause everyone was childish but you ;)
cu later!

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