Juri wrote:When you were the one adding and abusing str relics the first month and a half of RvR all was right and cool, and now that you're eating your own medicine you have the urge to vent on the forums? Kinda rich of you.

Big words noname. As you seem to have trouble reading, I urge you to go over my start post again, this is not a vent thread, merely a discussion thread to redirect Mids current RvR meta and focus with a different approach, initiative and thought.

All my RvR action is documented on my twitch stream/youtube. I went RR4 without a template and relics. Hibs didn't even bother to visit the frontiers without relics.
Please show me a fight were we jam on purpose and not because we do payback to someone that jammed/zerged us before.

I'll await your research and findings.

Sincerely,
Riyu

PS: Please post before I'm a skeleton.

Mancav3 wrote:I lol'd at this post.

I've been added nearly every fight since 50 by mid groups. That's why we add nearly every mid group with a few exceptions depending on who they are or who they're fighting.

Last night, we started the evening with respecting fights. We got jammed by mid group after mid group.

Must be the general mentality by Americans. The time you guys run I merely see randoms and TA.

Also, I've seen you guys on stream jamming fights too, so the actions by Mids might be mutual nature.

Everyone claims to just "payback". Never heared of anyone actually admitting they just added
PS Juri is maybe a noname for a new Uth player like you, not for veterans

Riyu doesn't add me when he sees me. I testify to that.

All this logic about "everyone from realm x does y" is beyond stupid, and I hope you guys can recognize that. You really think everyone who add/doesn't add avoids playing one realm and joins another?

The reason Midgard may have added slightly less is not through respect to other realms...it's because they knew the 8-man's in their own realm were going to yell and scream at them. Midgard is very unbalanced in the early months and the vast majority of the try-hard 8-mans picked there. They knew if they added each other fights, RvR action would be deader than it already was. So they did it out of necessity, not courtesy. That being said, Mids now add just as much as the other realms do aside from a few set 8-mans.

Just remember guys: an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

"META" mentality is ruining this game, should be based on players not their spec.

Big words noname.

Apologies.
I'm Ixtab, founder, co-gm and main druid for Tatort Toilette, formerly known as Warriors of Gruen (on Uth 1.0), the "bad group" (that's how you called us, https://www.twitch.tv/videos/130859833, minute 07:43:04) that whooped your ass multiple times the 24th of march.
Stickleader is Nujao, also founder and co-gm of the guild, and he has a very strict no-add policy to the point that many complain about him not letting us join the "party" when we see one. We respect other people's 8v8 when it involves guilds from our realm/alliance or guilds from other realms that have shown respect towards us in the past (humble in victory, gracious in defeat).
That being said, we have our own exceptions: we usually add mid vs alb fights. That's called "three-way" and there's nothing wrong or disrespectful about it. I feel like some people are so lost inside their own assh0les and their own "pride 8v8 elitarist rules" that forgot DAoC is a 3-realms based PvP where everything that's red can be attacked, and the only thing that can prevent that is our own judgement. We all do enjoy some nice 8v8 but the game's not only about that, deal with it and play with what you're given.

Hibs didn't even bother to visit the frontiers without relics.

That's just not true. You should be happy, though: more RPs for you, aite?

All my RvR action is documented on my twitch stream/youtube.

Indeed it is! Let's review some footage altogether, shall we?


https://www.twitch.tv/videos/130859833


06:54:45
Zerg vs zerg. Not much to say here, you joined the party late, had the privilege to choose the best timing & place to inc from yet couldn't clean up, let alone win.


07:40:16
You boxed us IN the gate, yet you couldn't win the fight.
We were eight, by the way. No excuses.


08:00:39
If you get beat nice and clean by "such a group" (08:01:55) does that make you "even worse"?

Please show me a fight were we jam on purpose and not because we do payback to someone that jammed/zerged us before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foOGgVUHEk0

Where's the fairplay your mouth is full of? Were you waiting for us to finish off the zerg to have a "fair" 8v8? Not cute dante, not cute.

You remark about how hibs took relic "in the early a.m." (suggesting ours was an unfair raid), you're convinced the realm that's getting zerged down is mid and mid only, you self-entitle yourself as some sort of master strategist and suggest your realm to do this and that... Excuse me, who are you again?
It bares repeating: play the game, deal with bad situations and get the best out of them.
So! Next time, before you try to dress up a QQ-rant thread as a "pacific exchange of opinions" and attempt to shove *YOUR OWN* game morale and *YOUR OWN* point of view on how to play a game down other people's throat...



PS: I would also like to point out how ridiculous it is to hear you mids being surprised and complain about damage dealt by hib casters... That's what I meant with "tasting your own medicine": where were you when your savages and zerkers were literally two-shotting our brehon lurikeens? I'll tell you: enjoying your fat RPs. Breaking news tho: your savages still do damage, we (hibs) just got better at dealing with it. What about you?

this whole discussion is stupid, because it is based on false premises.

the jester claims that mids add in about 20-30% of the time, and even sane ppl seem to be convinced that they add slightly less than other realms.

first of all, these numbers/assumptions are 100% based on personal observations and therefore scientifically/statistically 100% worthless. gz! so using them in a discussion brings zero chance of having any productive outcome (i know, it is a gaming forum xD).
as if you would compare how often it rained in everyones neighborhood and deduce the overall raining probability from it... i mean, srsly?

furthermore, guys, this dante is such a troll - we must not feed him... the fact alone that he calls someone a "noname" should tell you enough about the very one dimensional way he "thinks". yes, he is somewhat known on uth2 - but for what? starting stupid "discussions" like this, or accusing another player of speedhacking, when his own "evidence" disproves him (he deleted the thread when everyone was laughing at him), etc..

that being said, i rather remain nameless.