thursa wrote:Very good reasoning, Fjott. Rangers have access to so many more toys. Desperate bowman is such a cheap "get out of jail free" card. Physical Defense (why hasn't this been removed from rangers?), Dmg Add.. etc.. too many toys.

Scouts get a shield slam and a RR5 ability with a shield slam + root.. and Hunters get a broken RR5.

Why have there been no efforts to correct these imbalances? Could it be that 1.69 is a flawed version?

Thursa, this is not a nerf ranger thread. I think Fjott was just pointing out that with these value changes on items that spec'ing into high beastcraft is no longer needed. How is hunters RR5 broke? Also, Blue has stated that he has plans to get rid of PD to ALL ranged stealthers. I believe he also has plans to modify or get rid of viper. If they ever get rid of PD it will be no big deal to my ranger. I will just take those points and put them into toughness instead. I'm curious what you will replace viper with? Maybe Aug Str or higher MoP? Be careful what you wish for, because i'm pretty sure if and when the PD change comes you will also be losing a valuable RA on your assasin....

RonELuvv wrote:

thursa wrote:Very good reasoning, Fjott. Rangers have access to so many more toys. Desperate bowman is such a cheap "get out of jail free" card. Physical Defense (why hasn't this been removed from rangers?), Dmg Add.. etc.. too many toys.

Scouts get a shield slam and a RR5 ability with a shield slam + root.. and Hunters get a broken RR5.

Why have there been no efforts to correct these imbalances? Could it be that 1.69 is a flawed version?

Thursa, this is not a nerf ranger thread. I think Fjott was just pointing out that with these value changes on items that spec'ing into high beastcraft is no longer needed. How is hunters RR5 broke? Also, Blue has stated that he has plans to get rid of PD to ALL ranged stealthers. I believe he also has plans to modify or get rid of viper. If they ever get rid of PD it will be no big deal to my ranger. I will just take those points and put them into toughness instead. I'm curious what you will replace viper with? Maybe Aug Str or higher MoP? Be careful what you wish for, because i'm pretty sure if and when the PD change comes you will also be losing a valuable RA on your assasin....

Thursa is the biggest whiner on Midgard, ignore him plz . Even before the PA change, all I've seen is him spamming on broad how rangers are overpowered etc. I agree, rangers are probably one of the strongest solo classes, but assassins should have no right to whine . From what I understand, he's not even templated properly and mostly tasks/ragequits after one lost fight and goes back to tasking or keep taking, so I would not take him seriously .

No need to be insulting and rude here, Ivann.

Raggnar wrote:

RonELuvv wrote:

thursa wrote:Very good reasoning, Fjott. Rangers have access to so many more toys. Desperate bowman is such a cheap "get out of jail free" card. Physical Defense (why hasn't this been removed from rangers?), Dmg Add.. etc.. too many toys.

Scouts get a shield slam and a RR5 ability with a shield slam + root.. and Hunters get a broken RR5.

Why have there been no efforts to correct these imbalances? Could it be that 1.69 is a flawed version?

Thursa, this is not a nerf ranger thread. I think Fjott was just pointing out that with these value changes on items that spec'ing into high beastcraft is no longer needed. How is hunters RR5 broke? Also, Blue has stated that he has plans to get rid of PD to ALL ranged stealthers. I believe he also has plans to modify or get rid of viper. If they ever get rid of PD it will be no big deal to my ranger. I will just take those points and put them into toughness instead. I'm curious what you will replace viper with? Maybe Aug Str or higher MoP? Be careful what you wish for, because i'm pretty sure if and when the PD change comes you will also be losing a valuable RA on your assasin....

Thursa is the biggest whiner on Midgard, ignore him plz . Even before the PA change, all I've seen is him spamming on broad how rangers are overpowered etc. I agree, rangers are probably one of the strongest solo classes, but assassins should have no right to whine . From what I understand, he's not even templated properly and mostly tasks/ragequits after one lost fight and goes back to tasking or keep taking, so I would not take him seriously .

Celteen wrote:40 Path or high beastcraft wont be viable anymore.
Gonna split into even bigger charge wars^^
Viper3 assasin with 20 more con wont help to make them easier.

Like pd4-5 ranger, 20 more con wont help to make them easier

Raggnar wrote:

RonELuvv wrote:

thursa wrote:Very good reasoning, Fjott. Rangers have access to so many more toys. Desperate bowman is such a cheap "get out of jail free" card. Physical Defense (why hasn't this been removed from rangers?), Dmg Add.. etc.. too many toys.

Scouts get a shield slam and a RR5 ability with a shield slam + root.. and Hunters get a broken RR5.

Why have there been no efforts to correct these imbalances? Could it be that 1.69 is a flawed version?

Thursa, this is not a nerf ranger thread. I think Fjott was just pointing out that with these value changes on items that spec'ing into high beastcraft is no longer needed. How is hunters RR5 broke? Also, Blue has stated that he has plans to get rid of PD to ALL ranged stealthers. I believe he also has plans to modify or get rid of viper. If they ever get rid of PD it will be no big deal to my ranger. I will just take those points and put them into toughness instead. I'm curious what you will replace viper with? Maybe Aug Str or higher MoP? Be careful what you wish for, because i'm pretty sure if and when the PD change comes you will also be losing a valuable RA on your assasin....

Thursa is the biggest whiner on Midgard, ignore him plz . Even before the PA change, all I've seen is him spamming on broad how rangers are overpowered etc. I agree, rangers are probably one of the strongest solo classes, but assassins should have no right to whine . From what I understand, he's not even templated properly and mostly tasks/ragequits after one lost fight and goes back to tasking or keep taking, so I would not take him seriously .

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Thursa whine about every others class that he dont play not only rangers ^^

No need to whine all day about classes and game mechanics you didn't take time to understand either. I would even understand hunter complaining, but a SB haha...come on, gimme a break. Every time someone kills you, that class is overpowered, you whine on /broad and /as...it's annoying. Adrexx was killing people in emain as soon as he hit 4L0, so I don't see what's your problem. I am not rude and I am not trying to insult anyone, just tired of whining. Grind some PvE, make a proper template, run buffed and learn to play your class, you might enjoy it.

Raggnar wrote:No need to whine all day about classes and game mechanics you didn't take time to understand either. I would even understand hunter complaining, but a SB haha...come on, gimme a break. Every time someone kills you, that class is overpowered, you whine on /broad and /as...it's annoying. Adrexx was killing people in emain as soon as he hit 4L0, so I don't see what's your problem. I am not rude and I am not trying to insult anyone, just tired of whining. Grind some PvE, make a proper template, run buffed and learn to play your class, you might enjoy it.

I dare you to roll a SB and camp AMG every day with the ranger zerg there.

I did one better Thursa. I made a hunter. As soon as I aquire a Body Neck and a new Akars Barrier and get him his final 6 levels I will be out there. Yes, if there is a Hib stealther zerg there that is fine, I will just bring more stealthers with me. When I was first entering into the frontiers with my ranger it was Black Adders and the Albs that always owned AMG with a stealther zerg. Some nights we could get enough to kill em and push em back, other nights not so much. Thats just part of the game. When I start going out there to spill Hibernian stealther blood you are more then welcome to join me. Same $hit different realm

thursa wrote:

Raggnar wrote:No need to whine all day about classes and game mechanics you didn't take time to understand either. I would even understand hunter complaining, but a SB haha...come on, gimme a break. Every time someone kills you, that class is overpowered, you whine on /broad and /as...it's annoying. Adrexx was killing people in emain as soon as he hit 4L0, so I don't see what's your problem. I am not rude and I am not trying to insult anyone, just tired of whining. Grind some PvE, make a proper template, run buffed and learn to play your class, you might enjoy it.

I dare you to roll a SB and camp AMG every day with the ranger zerg there.

I did it for very long, fighting ba, fighting death row, and me solo in the middle, instead of the constant whine you are doing, i have try again, and became way better. You should try to play a little better instead of cry and cry more about others or the class they play, because if i listen ur words, every class is op, only the one u play are crap lol