Can someone inform be about the state of the Savage class?

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Ati
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Postby Ati » Jan 19, 2010 12:54

havent you notsided its overall bug that 2h does VERY little damage here ?
I was testing koby svg with 2h ... 275+ only , but with h2h i was hiting 200mh+ all the quads.

Same goes for the warrior, 275 with 2h and 150+ with 1h ....
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Postby Force » Jan 19, 2010 13:52

Ati wrote:havent you notsided its overall bug that 2h does VERY little damage here ?
I was testing koby svg with 2h ... 275+ only , but with h2h i was hiting 200mh+ all the quads.

Same goes for the warrior, 275 with 2h and 150+ with 1h ....




Well, if you were doing 150 dmg, with a 1 hander, that had a speed of 4.0, one would expect you to do about 280 dmg with a 5.5, if you had about +40% bonus from 2H. That sounds about like what you are describing. I don't know if 2H needs to have more of a weapon skill bonus maybe? I can't recall if weaponskill calcs on live were different for 1H versus 2H, thought it was the same.

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Postby Ati » Jan 19, 2010 14:28

hmmm.. possible, but i remember going for 450+ with 2h as svg ... and it was DWORF xD and sometimes even 800+700crit :P
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Postby BlackCougar » Jan 19, 2010 14:47

still, blue states that its implemented and working - i have doubts too tbh....

by using a 5.7 2h i only do a little more damage then a bm with a 3.9 mainhand with about equal quickness and the same buffs.

frankly the most obviou reason is missing one hit kills. anyone who played a 2h tank on classic had at least one of those and if you remember tank group chats where the tanks where comparion they maximum damage values of up to 800 uncritted/fullbuffed and making a ohk on a mage due to a high crit...

the highest meele damage i ever did with my 5.7 spear was close to 400, the average is somewhere in the 250. a bm can hit that hard, he just does it in half the time + offhand hits.

in the last duel with our resident guild bm duel fanatic for every hit with 240-270 i landed he hit twice for 150-200 mainhand + around 80 offhand.

my most powerful style landed for 330 (with 0.88 growth rate), his most powerful with 240 (with 0.85).
mind you, my weapon is 1.8 seconds slower.

unsing a faster spear (4.5 instead of 5.7, both mp) we are much closer and i wager with a 3.9 spear our damage could be very well equal.

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Postby nixian » Jan 19, 2010 15:38

well if its implemented its implemented.. there might be some other bug though?

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Postby Metallo » Jan 19, 2010 16:10

so for 2h hammer savage troll ? :D which weapon is better? i make more damage with hammer then hth (level 24).
I try repeatly but hammer i make 100 damage with hammer and hth 80 damage same level and same dps and speed weapon qithout proc dunno which is better :| (yellow mobs and with self buffs)
My spec is 23 weapon 13 savagery and 5 parry (i think, in this moment i dont remember)

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Postby Ati » Jan 19, 2010 16:18

Metallo wrote:so for 2h hammer savage troll ? :D which weapon is better? i make more damage with hammer then hth (level 24).
I try repeatly but hammer i make 100 damage with hammer and hth 80 damage same level and same dps and speed weapon qithout proc dunno which is better :| (yellow mobs and with self buffs)
My spec is 23 weapon 13 savagery and 5 parry (i think, in this moment i dont remember)


As you can see the dmg difference is so small ... but with h2h u have chagne to double/triple/quad + its way faster than 2h ... so overal DMG is better with h2h
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