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Sorcerer and pets

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arkiel Warder Posts: 50 Joined: Mar 01, 2009 01:00	Reply with quote by arkiel » Mar 01, 2009 17:34 Ok, so I'm making a little sorc, and I noticed a little problem with charming pets : resists. LOTS of resists. Lvl 30 right now, and to charm a pet of my level, it takes at the very least 3-4 tries before I manage to charm the mob. I have the lvl 20 charm spell, and 25+2 in mind. I have more resists on the lvl 20 charm spell than on the lvl 5 str debuff :x So, it's really annoying and I never saw that on live. I stopped playing when TOA arrived however, so perhaps they changed this, but i highly doubt it. Anyone experiencing the same problem ? Is it a known bug ? Is it a bug at all ? Would appreciate any feedback on that. [edit : note that the lvl 20 charm should be able to charm mobs up to lvl 40]

pantal00n Myrmidon Posts: 132 Joined: Oct 11, 2005 00:00	Reply with quote by pantal00n » Mar 03, 2009 19:22 I'm level 49, with 36+14 in Mind. It's hard to charm a yellow con mob, like 70% resist chance, on blue con mobs however, I can't even remember the last resist.

arkiel Warder Posts: 50 Joined: Mar 01, 2009 01:00	Reply with quote by arkiel » Mar 03, 2009 20:36 I submitted this in bug reports forum. Quite annoying bug...

dino Warder Posts: 37 Joined: Dec 21, 2007 01:00	Reply with quote by dino » Mar 09, 2009 23:18 Not a bug...based on live mechanics, your plusses to your Mind spec only count for a third, instead of fully, like a mins. My spec is 37mind + 15, so I can reliably charm a lvl 42 pet (37 + (15/3)) = 42. It's all explained here: http://www.uthgard-server.net/modules.p ... highlight=

arkiel Warder Posts: 50 Joined: Mar 01, 2009 01:00	Reply with quote by arkiel » Mar 22, 2009 11:58 Yeah, well, excuse me but i highly doubt it's live-like. I never saw anything like that on live. And the link from that post to catacombs says exactly the opposite. This formula is supposed to be used with minstrel-like spells, not sorc-like ones.

dino Warder Posts: 37 Joined: Dec 21, 2007 01:00	Reply with quote by dino » Mar 24, 2009 03:14 Wish you were right. From Presto, in that thread: "Every full Specc Level ist one Mob Level of safe charm Every bonus level is 1/3 Level of safe Charm Means 47 + 15 = 52 safe charm. Thats the current formula. It has been tested several times. I remember putting the formula together with Gerbalds knowledge extracted from several boards. The measurements we did on live als supported it. Gerbald used to play several "Charmers" on live so I don't doubt the formula."

lumpenhund Guardian Posts: 5 Joined: Mar 26, 2009 01:00	Reply with quote by lumpenhund » Mar 26, 2009 01:56 minstrel and menta charm may work that way, but sorc charm did not work that way on live. i used to play 2 sorcs up to 50 on live, one near rr7 and the mob lvl you could charm was ONLY dependend on the charm spell. if you had the latest charm spell you could charm any mob up to your lvl without having severe resist problems, even as a dual spec sorc with not more than 39 points in mind.

Ejssfeldt Guardian Posts: 1 Joined: Mar 03, 2009 01:00	Reply with quote by Ejssfeldt » Mar 26, 2009 18:58 Definately not like on live servers! I'm lvl 24 now and i've tried to charm a yellow mob for like over 10 times without success (3 times full mana bar).... It's really annoying! The formula you guys mean is relevant for minstrel but the sorc charm works lots more simple... you got 12 in mind you are able to charm up to lvl 26 (as long as they aren't orange to you) I've played like 3 sorcs before (one of it for really really long time) and never had that problem! I really would call myself a sorc-expert!

Almar Gryphon Knight Posts: 325 Joined: May 11, 2005 00:00	Reply with quote by Almar » Mar 29, 2009 17:52 go to live make some logs without toa boni then it gets changed staff wont trust on your word to make your class stronger

carnalito Gryphon Knight Posts: 311 Joined: Apr 06, 2009 00:00 Website	Reply with quote by carnalito » Apr 21, 2009 15:38 Almar wrote:go to live make some logs without toa boni then it gets changed staff wont trust on your word to make your class stronger I have this problem too and it's deninatly not like the live servers! Should be pretty easy to prove, with the current rate of resists from mobs. Unfortunatly, i cannot test it on live, because all my accounts have ended.

nixian Forum Moderator Posts: 5450 Joined: May 19, 2006 00:00	Reply with quote by nixian » Apr 21, 2009 15:48 make a free trial account go to pendragon --> insta 50 insta RR13 insta money :p

Blue Developer Posts: 15822 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	Reply with quote by Blue » Apr 21, 2009 16:53 nixian wrote:make a free trial account go to pendragon --> insta 50 insta RR13 insta money :p Really? You can reach 50 with trial account on pendragon? It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

nixian Forum Moderator Posts: 5450 Joined: May 19, 2006 00:00	Reply with quote by nixian » Apr 21, 2009 16:55 afaik anyone can talk to this npc which insta dings u lvl 50 (cl10 if u want) gives u BPs gold, etc for free since its test server

poplik Phoenix Knight Posts: 1710 Joined: May 02, 2006 00:00	Reply with quote by poplik » Apr 21, 2009 17:50 yeah I got lvl 50 and everything with trial account, but it's far from insta there is some retarded cooldown on that NPC which I found rather confusing but yeah, you can reach lvl 50 and probably rr13 if you have the patience of cliking on the npc every minute or so Vids: Unicum I - youtube Unicum II - youtube youtube channel

H-Man Volunteer Posts: 684 Joined: Sep 03, 2008 00:00 Website	Reply with quote by H-Man » Apr 21, 2009 18:34 you can use the same option (xp for example) every 2 minutes. you gain 5 levels per click, so after 16 minutes you're 40. after that, 2.5 levels per click, so ~25mins to get to 50. It may not be instantly, but it's pretty fast Henrir, Hyrkon, Hrungar & Hiormon Bruagh.