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disown3d
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Postby disown3d » Feb 10, 2009 23:11

Wazza, I'm still somewhat new to daoc n I was jw what friars main purpose is, dps? Heals? Buffs? Aslo are they better in groups? Or solo? Any info would be greatly appreicated...?
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P.S. Some common specs would greatly help too, I hear high staff/enhance works...?

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Postby panachier » Feb 10, 2009 23:38

friars are swiss knives.

they are not the best at healing, they are not the best at dealing damage, nore the best to rupt... but they are good in all that points.

that's the reason why they are appreciated in small groups but not often in larger groups ( even if i think they can be very nice in some groups )

you should read some topics on the web to learn more i think.

they are the easiest char to level solo on alb. and even faster in duo with a theurgist or a wizard.
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Postby Supafly » Feb 11, 2009 11:39

Friars are good solo classes as they dont have to depend on any1 for nothing.. they can be good tanks and they can heal themselves..

Good specs are mostly staff and enhance with a little but of rej just for res..

Friars have satisfactory base buffs and also good resists.. obviously not the best as clerics would then be useless :P

But overall, friars are good in groups and also good solo'ers..
and as there aren't too many players all at once in bgs, u shouldnt find it a problem to find a group :)

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Postby Dark » Mar 10, 2009 23:51

i have never won a 1v1 over an friar with my skald....
they are good solo class but i know not many people take friar in an rvr grp dunno why

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Postby salbei » Mar 11, 2009 02:09

friars are melee/healer hybrids. it is a decent solo class. can see it as a melee char that can heal/buff himself.

only downside to this is it´s armor , but the buffs will make up for that since uthgard is a no-buffbot-server.

you can duo with anyone without a problem to pve.

for rvr the class often gets mis-identified as a caster which can lead to funny situations.

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Postby H-Man » Mar 11, 2009 02:29

salbei wrote:for rvr the class often gets mis-identified as a caster which can lead to funny situations.


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Postby Supafly » Mar 11, 2009 11:21

haha nice one H-Man...

I love the "just try it" expression.. it's so true! rofl..

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Postby monty » Mar 11, 2009 22:44

for rvr the class often gets mis-identified as a caster which can lead to funny situations.


dragon drops a nice friar robe with cloth skin to make it more real

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Postby Lenithiel » Mar 18, 2009 20:38

I have a question by the way.


Do friars on Uthgard now get 1.8 spec pts per level instead of 1.5 before ?


Anyway, I love friars. You are good at almost everything. You're not really great in any situation but you are very adaptable.

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Postby nixian » Mar 18, 2009 20:40

afaik no they dont :)

its pure pre 1.80 so anything past that u most likely wont find :)

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Postby Desloc » Apr 03, 2009 10:18

Hi! Seeking advice on my final spec. I've narrowed it down to these three:

A. 39 Staff / 25 Rejuv / 46 Enhance / 8 Parry

B. 39 Staff / 18 Rejuv / 49 Enhance / 9 parry

C. 44 Staff / 18 Rejuv / 45 Enhance / 7 Parry

I admit I only included option C to appease the battle Friars. The 8 second stun from Stunning Wrath sounds delicious. However, since it chains off a side style when do you actually get to use it in RvR? It's utility seems highly dubious outside of group PvE.

Option A vs. option B is a battle between the usefulness of the 25 spec heal vs. an extra 8% cold and matter resist and an extra 6% to self-haste buff. Basically I'd like to know how common cold and matter are as a damage type amongst Hib and Mid casters. The 6% haste advantage is negligible.

Actually, the more I think about it, the more I prefer option A. But any and all suggestions are welcome! :D

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edit:

Here's one more template I came up with to appease the Rejuv lovers:

39 Staff / 34 Rejuv / 40 Enhance / 7 Parry

This is actually a pretty tempting setup. The 33 spec heal is sexy and I could conceivably max Rejuv with enough bonus from Realm Rank. I do miss out on all the top Enhancements (except, um, the taunt) but this seems like it would be a VERY flexible build.

So many choices with this class! :lol:

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Postby Lenithiel » Apr 03, 2009 11:42

I'll take the first template as a Friar.


The stunning style is nice, but it's almost impossible to place it in RvR.

25 rejuv is a decent heal, 39 staff is good and 46 enhancement fine too, just miss the last haste buff, but that's not so important.

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Postby poplik » Apr 03, 2009 11:51

cold resist is nice to have once in a blue moon when you meet eldritch or dark runie, matter is next to useless, only serious matter damage comes from warlock which is not implemented on this server.

Biggest reason to group friar - his resists - kind of pales on this server because of overall lack of casters

basicaly the problem in hybrids - in small groups, the more the class can do, the better, however when the group grows bigger, it is better to have specialized classes that do one thing well.

Also when it comes to RAs, static tempest is nice to have however it is bugged so it is affected by immunity :/
the rr5 is pretty good but even all these together are usually not enough to prefer friar instead of another merc.

Small groups and solo, that is where friar shines
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Postby panachier » Apr 03, 2009 12:51

style 39 is second one on evade chain... :S why do you really want it?

i would go at least 28 heal/49 buff/34 staff
or 29 heal/48buff/34staff...

you can decrease more your staff and increase your heal. anyway your damage won't change a lot and you'll never use style 34.

so my choice would be 33heal/49buff/29staff... you have the yellow spe heal, that makes you a real healer in case of danger and your base heal will have no variance.

and no lot of difference in damage... max would be 5/10%
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