Just curious what everyone is planning on running with the endurance situation

we will be running with tears streaming down our faces

>Level up Alchemy
>Craft endu potions
>Sell endu potions
>profit

I will make a paladin for rvr. Will make him an alchemist and sell endo pots at APK emain. 25g a pop. Best rvr experience he will ever get.

I love these setup ideas!

I heard endo pots were 2 min duration here? If thats the case every group will have to run a pally.

Typical alb caster pull 8 mans----
Earth Theurg
Ice/earth Theurg
Mind sorc
Body sorc
Debuff Cab
2 Clerics
1 Mins

You will either have to swap mins/body sorc/1 theurg out for a paladin. If you can live with the slower speed the highest dps group will be no minstrel.

harkor wrote:I heard endo pots were 2 min duration here? If thats the case every group will have to run a pally.

Typical alb caster pull 8 mans----
Earth Theurg
Ice/earth Theurg
Mind sorc
Body sorc
Debuff Cab
2 Clerics
1 Mins

You will either have to swap mins/body sorc/1 theurg out for a paladin. If you can live with the slower speed the highest dps group will be no minstrel.

Hey all, can someone confirm or deny this? I would personally really like having Pallys in rvr.

Because this means more people would roll a pally in PVE, which is nice for levelling in this melee patch.

Warriston wrote:

harkor wrote:I heard endo pots were 2 min duration here? If thats the case every group will have to run a pally.

Typical alb caster pull 8 mans----
Earth Theurg
Ice/earth Theurg
Mind sorc
Body sorc
Debuff Cab
2 Clerics
1 Mins

You will either have to swap mins/body sorc/1 theurg out for a paladin. If you can live with the slower speed the highest dps group will be no minstrel.

Hey all, can someone confirm or deny this? I would personally really like having Pallys in rvr.

Because this means more people would roll a pally in PVE, which is nice for levelling in this melee patch.

its true, but what is also true is 1000 unit range on endu chant and no det for paladin = very difficult for them to be effective in rvr

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I know mids end is a shaman buff so on until shammy dies right?

What's the hub's Endo?

Sucks we get stuck with a 1000 chant range.

Labs wrote:I know mids end is a shaman buff so on until shammy dies right?

What's the hub's Endo?

Sucks we get stuck with a 1000 chant range.

Hib has a chant, just like Alb. Unlike the Paladin's chant, the Bard's has 2000 range because reasons.

Garlak wrote:

Labs wrote:I know mids end is a shaman buff so on until shammy dies right?

What's the hub's Endo?

Sucks we get stuck with a 1000 chant range.

Hib has a chant, just like Alb. Unlike the Paladin's chant, the Bard's has 2000 range because reasons.

Im pretty sure bard chant is 1.5 range and shaman buff has 2k range.

Someone correct me if im mistaken.

Zurffette wrote:
Im pretty sure bard chant is 1.5 range and shaman buff has 2k range.

Someone correct me if im mistaken.

Uth character builder says bard's endo is 2k range.
Im not sure about shamman endo but i think casted buff range is much larger? I might be wrong.

Tbh PLDs do deserve a range buff, and i used to say that when i played Mid.
Not having DET is bad but with DOUBLE the range on endo it would be much much better... if not for the PLDs, at least for his merc mates .

No 'real' 8 man will run a Paladin. This has been discussed a few times... Vs smart groups the Paladin will just become a liability eating roots/stuns/mez etc. I could see it maybe kind of working if the pally plays in the backfield/peeler role if his groupmates can protect him from being CCed out but then you run into the range dilemma as well. What you are getting out of an Armsman is just so far greater than a Paladin. So you have to carry endo pots and maybe up your endo RAs, a worthy tradeoff imo.

Cleric,
Cleric,
Cabby/Theurg,
Sorc,
dps/cabby/theurg
dps
dps
dps

I think most groups will want both cabby and theurg for cc pets and ns.
Then it becomes a 3 tank or 3 caster train, probably either arms, merc, merc or sorc/cabby, sorc/cabby, sorc/cabby/theurg.