As we know scout suck already, with patch 1.69 will be much more 5x worse.

I'd like to hear your opinion

here realm abilities

http://web.archive.org/web/20030301012141/http://www.camelotherald.com/realmabilities/scout.html

here character bulder 1.5 hit 2003 plz

http://web.archive.org/web/20030401121026/http://daoc.catacombs.com/cbuilder15.cfm


ps: if got in emain i big ocean i will spec Mastery of Water 5

scout will be op. purge 30 minute timer, no viper, nuff said. nothing changes for the scout, only for the rest. you can only profit.

Bistravoda wrote:ps: if got in emain i big ocean i will spec Mastery of Water 5

I everything understand can!

are you sure scout is weaker with old RAs? afterall your main enemies will suffer quite a lot by losing vanish, passive viper and 5-min-purge... 30-min-purge will allow for several slams to not be purged...

Imho the ones suffering the most with the switch back are assassins...sure they will see archers better and will themselves be seen more, but they'll be much weaker in general...also with TS you'll get a more or less free kill every 30 min

imho scouts will not perform any worse than they do now...maybe not better, but definitely not worse, as especially scouts benefit from long-timed purge (compared to rangers and hunters, which don't suffer from 5-min purge so bad)

Bistraaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

i don't think Scout will be weaker with old ra's, on my opinion can only be better.

try count what u get and what u lose:

PRO
no more purge3 spammers -> slam become useful
true sight -> every 30 mins prolly u can kill 2/3 assassins just using bow from max range
no more vip3 spammers
no more op rr5 (like rangers) and ra's like WoC2/3, SoS, ST etc that are really op to counter as a scout
no more pd3+ rangers/hunters so scout bow skill will be lot more effective than now
u get 100% ip (like all other archers) + First aid
u get dodger ra, that combined with mob, should be pretty good as defensive skill

BAD
u lose mos (this is not good, ofc)
u lose pd (not a big problem for scouts)
u lose your rr5 (but slam will be lot more useful if u need backup for escape, and there will be no more speed shout rangers with mos5 that will find u easly)


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u still can spec again on mob, aug dex and fe

well, must try and made lot of tests, but on my opinion Scout will not be weaker than before, for sure

exemple:
u get pa on face (will happen lot of times, for rangers and hunters too), as scout u have the best defence and slam.
fast slam, if assassin purge ofc u will prolly die, but for the next 30 minutes will be not so easy ...
if assassin not purge, scout is the only archer that can INSTA STUN and gain some range to shoot him down ... then don't forget that there will be no more vip3 eating your hp's with 120dmg/tick while u kite ...
problem will be very high evade rates on assassins, but, on the paper, a scout with mob + dodger combined ra's, should really gain a decent defence.
Don't forget only Infiltrators gain vanish skill ... (if u gain range from stelather he will be death w/out any chance)

against tanks:
scout already doing well now, on the future no more op'ed ra's (woc, st, purge3 etc etc) will be very good

will see ...


@Jazz
i don't agree on the fact that assassins will sux.
don't foget the power of dodger ra.
i remember my old 1.60 shadowblade, and later, my 1.60+ infiltrator (with dragonfang 9seconds stun) ...
assassins was incredible strong and deadly 1on1 (like should be), and don't forget on this server WS not work ...

I'm not so sure that assassins lose lot,

only one reason why it will hard. !!!

i saw i video. how i Infiltrator twice hit PA

here



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@Calatin

So, how many infiltrators will you fight as a scout?

good inf video, i've never see this before, thx.
i have an old 1.60+ shadowblade solo video, found yesterday on my hd.
are the times where laxe was bugged, will upload on youtube and link here somewhere

mohz wrote:So, how many infiltrators will you fight as a scout?

omg open your mind, is other 2 assassins in game. with same RA

Bistravoda wrote:

mohz wrote:So, how many infiltrators will you fight as a scout?

omg open your mind, is other 2 assassins in game. with same RA

Nope, only infiltrators get vanish. Ns gets viper and sb shadowrun (if I remember right).

Bistravoda wrote:

mohz wrote:So, how many infiltrators will you fight as a scout?

omg open your mind, is other 2 assassins in game. with same RA

Vanish is only for infs on old ra's

ns's if i remember well, get avoid pain (a timed ra that raise af)
shadowblades don't remember

with old ra's, every class will become unique, and i think this is fantastic

aye my bad

infi vanis
ns viper
sb Shadow Run Your run speed while steathed is boosted for 30 seconds.

Scout was my main with Old Ras in 2002. See Hidden was brutal and the population on Merlin was so high that it was impossible to go anywhere with Camo down.

Now on uth the population is not so high so escapes are possible, we shall see how it plays out.

Most archers will zerg I am afraid.

Also wow the inf in that video was a beast. I like the 4v1 fight at the end.

this video is 1.69 ?

i see aoe mezz envenom :p

Btw take a look on damage dealed by this guy in logs ...

Being fully TOAed and ML10 in patch 1.6X tends to help