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Any experts on Inf specs for uthgard in the house?

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svperstar Eagle Knight Posts: 638 Joined: May 31, 2012 20:33	Reply with quote by svperstar » Apr 19, 2013 13:08 So after killing Legion a billion time and a bunch of other raids, I have the best of everything for my inf, even the best charges. However I have heard a lot of people say things about Inf specs and argue back and forth about it. Right now I am 50 thrust 34 CS 35 stealth/DW/Evenom at 5l6. I have been told that 50 CS is a much better spec because it makes your CS styles do a lot more dmg compared to having 50 thrust which is useless >50. Does anyone know if this is true? Does +CS after 50 add on damage where 50 thrust does not? Anyone have any relevant info? Thanks. Looking up info on live and applying it to uthgard is always fuzzy at best. There will be a group of people out there who will want this realm to be entirely Mythic-like. Exactly like vanilla, drop rates/xp rates, basically everything and you will not be able to please them unless it is exactly like vanilla. These people have their nostalgia goggles on so tight it's cutting off the bloodflow to their brain and they believe that vanilla was perfect and nothing was wrong with it.

Dirtymind Eagle Knight Posts: 529 Joined: Dec 23, 2012 23:06	Reply with quote by Dirtymind » Apr 19, 2013 13:42 More than combined 50 (or 51 or some even say 52) only helps increase damage if you use styles from these lines. Usually you will use some CS styles, as their growth rate is higher. More than 50 in Thrust would only help for dragon fang - as you wont use any other thrust styles. If you are interested in theory about that, check this link... http://daoc-research-wiki.wikispaces.com/Wyrd-Spec I'd spec stealth, poison and thrust to get combined 50, 44 cs (50 imho not worth, as part of a chain of 4, which you wont land as of block or evade or parry), rest DW. Your spec also depends on enemy types and playstyle. If dragon fang is your I-win button - stay with it. Ex-Albion-Logres: Bogner [Sankaras Erben] and co Ex-Camlann: Dirtymind [FEAR] and Stinkerle

Nef Melody Phoenix Knight Posts: 1601 Joined: Nov 22, 2010 16:56	Reply with quote by Nef Melody » Apr 21, 2013 13:32 You will not benefit from a higher combined thrust skill than 51 with items and rr, aslong as you keep using dw/cs styles. Your damage with critical strike styles would increase, the higher your skill is. Consider that dual wield spec increases your off hand to hit chance. Its most likely better to have high DW. people spec more CS if they reach a higher realm rank because they have leftover points from envenom,stealth and weapon. Just lower thrust to 51 combined with items and rr and put the remaining points into DW, it will increase your dmg alot. 34 CS is fine, dont spec more unless you are high rr Nefcait : Bard Gua : Enchanter My Youtube Channel : https://www.youtube.com/user/ReqVids/videos

Madruk Gryphon Knight Posts: 347 Joined: Nov 01, 2007 01:00	Reply with quote by Madruk » Apr 25, 2013 19:58 hi first ,sry for my english. u ask about infi speccs. i think it give many good speccs. here my 3 favorite speccs. This specc i use in the moment 50 dw/50 Thrust or Slash Envenom-Stealth on level rest in cs ,open then with Backstab on visi Enemys ---------------------------------------------------------- 50 cs 44 thrust Envenom-Stealth on level rest in DW open with pa ,but u know this ,i think ---------------------------------------------------------- RR5 50 dw 35 stealth enevenom thrust 34 cs i dont know for if possible this specc with rr4,i think on rr 4 you have to less thrust skill. when you want you can specc envenom back to 47 for the last str con debuff,then you have no lifebane. --------------------------------------------------------- and a last tip,dont camp amg with rr4,better you camp horseroute ;-P Linc ---------------------------------------------------------- Myth:Paladins cannot deal damage Das mir der Hund das liebste ist,sagts du oh Mensch sei Sünde, der Hund blieb mir im Sturme treu,der Mensch nichtmal im Winde.

Ilerget Phoenix Knight Posts: 1487 Joined: Jul 04, 2011 11:54	Reply with quote by Ilerget » Apr 25, 2013 23:37 I ATed my infi (only lost 11 points at lvl 44) and went at the start until I have higher RR with: 44 CS / 37 stealth & envenom / 36 thrust & dw It's the thrill of the chase and I'm coming after you.

Jarqo Eagle Knight Posts: 565 Joined: Jul 09, 2012 16:02 Location: Uthgard,Hibernia	Reply with quote by Jarqo » Apr 26, 2013 12:06 My suggestion is: 1st spec 44cs,50thrust(for dragonfang),36stealth,36envenom,rest dw. 2nd spec 50cs,36weapon,36stealth,36envenom,29dw with this spec you got best pa dmg and if you spec thrust u can have 2s after evade stun(most ppls will purge it ). Thats all i would go, and only those spec no any others. Best Sniper Ranger on Uthgard since 2007. Looking for maps? Try http://jarqo91.wix.com/daoccamps

svperstar Eagle Knight Posts: 638 Joined: May 31, 2012 20:33	Reply with quote by svperstar » May 04, 2013 13:53 I am really close to rr6 and thinking of trying 50 CS then but I had a fight with a 8L3 Ranger today and won at 5l8 thanks to Dragon Fang. When we were both at 15% health I popped DF and then used the Dark Tendrils style for the bleed effects and I walked away at the end of the fight. If I didn't have DF for that fight from 50 thrust I am pretty sure I would have lost. There will be a group of people out there who will want this realm to be entirely Mythic-like. Exactly like vanilla, drop rates/xp rates, basically everything and you will not be able to please them unless it is exactly like vanilla. These people have their nostalgia goggles on so tight it's cutting off the bloodflow to their brain and they believe that vanilla was perfect and nothing was wrong with it.

Magicco Alerion Knight Posts: 2360 Joined: Aug 01, 2010 00:00	Reply with quote by Magicco » May 04, 2013 14:00 my infil used since rr6 (but full AT) 50thrust (for dragonfang) 44cs (for high styledamage and easy triplecombo after evade) so you evade->dragonfang->hamstring&co best spec i found for playing infil

realac0 Eagle Knight Posts: 548 Joined: May 18, 2010 00:00	Reply with quote by realac0 » May 05, 2013 10:09 Magicco wrote:my infil used since rr6 (but full AT) 50thrust (for dragonfang) 44cs (for high styledamage and easy triplecombo after evade) so you evade->dragonfang->hamstring&co best spec i found for playing infil my inf is still classic live spec (50thrust 44cs low dw) but, well, this is not live (i find dragonfang pretty useless considering is 50 on thrust, if was on 20+ like hibs was for sure worth it ^_^), so i'd try a different spec if i re-start play infiltrator. considering my experience on ranger, on gameplay and different specs, the fact that ws don't work will lead directly to split spec if u can make the right teamplate (u said have all best items to use) something like (full at'ed rank6): 34 stealth/poisons 25 blade/thrust 50 cs 36 dw or maybe (i like this more): 34 stealth/poisons 25 blade/thrust 44 cs 43 dw ... on my opinion, should work like a charm! u gain: - bonus on differents dmg type (that is believe me > than everything here considering ws not working) - high critical that are by far best styles to use - 36 or 43 on dw for higher chance to hit with offhand u lose: - dragonfang (useless on 99,9% of situation on this server, all purge3, so u should not care mutch about it) - cap on dps output (your damage will be variable, because u not capping 51 weapon, but, as i've seen with my ranger, is still ok) ... from my point of view, this is best all over situation spec any infiltrator can run but i have no idea how to make a teamplate (i know Tuv was running something similar, maybe Dexx too) p.s. u should not care mutch about the poisons switch on blade. u need this on pierce mainly, so carry 7/8 piercers for poisons switch and fight rangers, mid tanks, basically everything THAN sb's. when u fight sb's put up remedy, your slasher, and just own they with bonus on mid leather ---------- UTHGARD 1.0 ------------ ALBION Imeope 6l1 - Infiltrator Imoep St0ned - 6l7 Paladin Ellehn Thunderer - 7l0 Scout HIBERNIA Drawstab Boo <Rinnegati> - 9l0 Ranger Realz <Rinnegati> - 6l3 Blademaster ---------------------------------------- Drawstab Vol.1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5mE6RQhRwA Drawstab Vol.2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDsCAMqZ ... e=youtu.be Paladin WTF http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FeY55eYiQI ... currently playing ESO

svperstar Eagle Knight Posts: 638 Joined: May 31, 2012 20:33	Reply with quote by svperstar » May 05, 2013 22:23 Magicco wrote:my infil used since rr6 (but full AT) 50thrust (for dragonfang) 44cs (for high styledamage and easy triplecombo after evade) so you evade->dragonfang->hamstring&co best spec i found for playing infil Problem with tihs is the low DW. I went from 19+14 DW to 35+15.........the amount I hit with both swords went up by a ridiculous amount. There will be a group of people out there who will want this realm to be entirely Mythic-like. Exactly like vanilla, drop rates/xp rates, basically everything and you will not be able to please them unless it is exactly like vanilla. These people have their nostalgia goggles on so tight it's cutting off the bloodflow to their brain and they believe that vanilla was perfect and nothing was wrong with it.

Pironic Guardian Posts: 6 Joined: May 05, 2013 19:26	Reply with quote by Pironic » May 16, 2013 00:04 At RR6 (which you will be soon, according to you), I'd go Combined 50 stealth/Envenom, 51 weapon skill, 50 cs, rest dw, or: 34 Stealth 34 Envenom 35 Thrust 50 Critical Strike 36 Dual Wield. Should be the most optimal damage spec, sure lacks the utlity from Dragon Fang, but the damage from CS styles is amazing If you want to respec even before RR6, I'd do exactly the same and go 35 Stealth 35 Envenom 36 Thrust 50 Critical Strike 33 Dual Wield

svperstar Eagle Knight Posts: 638 Joined: May 31, 2012 20:33	Reply with quote by svperstar » May 17, 2013 09:43 I dinged rr6 tonight and did some testing. I posted a new thread above about the testing. Basically with 50 CS did 109 dmg avg with 50 Thrust did 98.55 New spec is 34 Stealth 34 Envenom 34 Thrust 50 Critical Strike 37 Dual Wield I am curious how it would look if I dropped thrust to the lowest possible value Last edited by svperstar on May 17, 2013 10:51, edited 1 time in total. There will be a group of people out there who will want this realm to be entirely Mythic-like. Exactly like vanilla, drop rates/xp rates, basically everything and you will not be able to please them unless it is exactly like vanilla. These people have their nostalgia goggles on so tight it's cutting off the bloodflow to their brain and they believe that vanilla was perfect and nothing was wrong with it.

Ilerget Phoenix Knight Posts: 1487 Joined: Jul 04, 2011 11:54	Reply with quote by Ilerget » May 17, 2013 09:58 maybe u will get huge variance in damage? It's the thrill of the chase and I'm coming after you.

Magicco Alerion Knight Posts: 2360 Joined: Aug 01, 2010 00:00	Reply with quote by Magicco » May 17, 2013 10:23 Ilerget wrote:maybe u will get huge variance in damage? its not so huge

svperstar Eagle Knight Posts: 638 Joined: May 31, 2012 20:33	Reply with quote by svperstar » May 17, 2013 10:52 Ilerget wrote:maybe u will get huge variance in damage? I am probably going to waste another respec stone to test it(believe me I have plenty) There will be a group of people out there who will want this realm to be entirely Mythic-like. Exactly like vanilla, drop rates/xp rates, basically everything and you will not be able to please them unless it is exactly like vanilla. These people have their nostalgia goggles on so tight it's cutting off the bloodflow to their brain and they believe that vanilla was perfect and nothing was wrong with it.