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Postby devinicus67 » Dec 10, 2012 18:08

Couple of questions for you Pally Pro's out there;

1) Macro for twisting I assume means a ban on this server? 8O
2) Any tips for a new Paladin as it comes to twisting - I am having a hard time mastering this; Im a low level yet so plenty of practice time :lol:
3) Recommended spec for Uthgard server?
4) As I am new and broke, what are my best options for armoring and arming myself? I.E., any good drop places for Pally's

Non Pally question; what are the BG level's on Uthgard?

Thanks for you time

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Postby Mischa » Dec 10, 2012 18:19

bg lvls and rr are 20-35 and max. 2L2 for braemar, 36-43 and max. 3L2 for wilton, and 44-49 and max. 4L2 for thidranki
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Postby Blue » Dec 10, 2012 18:51

1) absolutely yes and we already banned (perm banned) several players for macro twisting.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."


Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

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Postby Koleriker » Dec 10, 2012 19:22

3) create a saracen paladin and use crush till lvl 48. Endspec should be 42shield, 44 thrust, 45 (or 46 for last DA-chant) chants, rest in parry
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Postby HulkGris » Dec 10, 2012 19:44

Blue wrote:1) absolutely yes and we already banned (perm banned) several players for macro twisting.

Automated twisting is forbidden... you mean a automated cycle on a long term basis or does a player is even not allowed to bind a 4 keys sequence on a G15 key ?
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Postby Magicco » Dec 10, 2012 19:47

HulkGris wrote:
Blue wrote:1) absolutely yes and we already banned (perm banned) several players for macro twisting.

Automated twisting is forbidden... you mean a automated cycle on a long term basis or does a player is even not allowed to bind a 4 keys sequence on a G15 key ?


both is not allowed ;)

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Postby _Oglop_ » Dec 10, 2012 21:23

Level 20-30 in Lynn Barfog off of Cythrauls and Bwgwls for "Plate Drops". . .
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Postby Blue » Dec 10, 2012 21:49

§7.1 Prohibition of hacks and tools
The usage of hacks or exploits will lead to the permanent ban of all accounts of the player. This includes radar tools, speedhacks, macrotools (leveltools) and sniffertools. In such cases the ban will be set without any notification of the player. Programmed hardware (keyboard, mouse) or the usage of other tools (even a small stick attached to the keyboard to continuously press a key) that causes the character to make actions while being away from the game are affected by this rule and will have the same consequences.

I hope you have read the rules.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."


Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

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Postby Dubren » Dec 10, 2012 21:58

devinicus67 wrote:Couple of questions for you Pally Pro's out there;

1) Macro for twisting I assume means a ban on this server? 8O
2) Any tips for a new Paladin as it comes to twisting - I am having a hard time mastering this; Im a low level yet so plenty of practice time :lol:
3) Recommended spec for Uthgard server?
4) As I am new and broke, what are my best options for armoring and arming myself? I.E., any good drop places for Pally's

Non Pally question; what are the BG level's on Uthgard?

Thanks for you time


1) As stated yes it is.

2) It just takes some time getting used to it. I set my chants up on my main hotbar towards the end (heal chant 6th slot, 7th endo chant, 8th AF chant, 9th damage add chant for example), and the earlier slots I use for combat styles, engage/taunt chant ect. I will be changing this later some probably when I get to RvR and/or higher level but that is how I am now at level 26. As someone told me years ago, "just act like your doing scales on a piano for chants and use combat styles with other hand if needed." I will say that you need to master the chant twisting now during PvE because in RvR there is a lot more going on that needs your attention than hitting chants. You'll get there though, it is more awkward than hard in my opinion.

3) Beats me. A lot of players say you must go thrust spec for anytime combo snare (level 44 thrust spec), which means a Saracen would be idea for this Paladin build with extra high Dexterity which will improve your damage with Thrust weapons, and also give you better blocking. However you will take a hit in your Constitution, which means lower health in the end compared to other races. Nothing to drive you away from that race, however. Personally I went a Highlander like my Mythic server Paladin was, I love the race and I wanted to keep my options open for my end of game spec. I'm going to at least try out the Slash spec, and possibly at a higher Realm Rank will give the 2hand spec or hybrid spec a go (shield and two hand). But for now I am using Crush weapon type with its low endo usage for combat styles. If I do end up having to go Thrust spec in the end I'll just have to suffer the lower damage output. In the end I don't think it'll matter what race you choose, and maybe we can both buck the Paladin thrust spec trend... ;)

While leveling, I have Chants to level, weapon about 2 levels behind or so, rest in shield. My specialization right now is something like 26 Chants, 23-24 Crush, and 15 Shield I think at level 26 for example. To me Chants are what make a Paladin, so I have that the highest. You'll never put out the damage of a Mercenary or Armsman, so why try to with high weapon. I might push my shield up higher however so that I am more defensive, maybe let my weapon spec slightly dip down to 3-4 levels behind my level. We'll see. If you try a different spec with good results let me know. :)

4) I'm new here too. I found that plate armor isn't an absolute necessary thing for a Paladin at lower levels, I just got an almost completed plate armor suit at level 26 (still missing boots) and I was fine with randomly picked up armor pieces (studded, some chain) as I leveled. If you fight yellow/blue con mobs your chants (AF/Healing) should help you have almost no downtime between mob fights, assuming your solo. Grouping may be easier or worse depending on what your fighting. Also, try to level in Darkness Falls as much as Albion has access to it, I went from level 23 to 26 on sunday in a few hours of playing time (about 4.5). Mobs there will sometimes drop seals, which merchants there will sell armor, weapons, shields, and other items to you for them. Good stuff!

Good luck!

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Postby devinicus67 » Dec 10, 2012 23:40

A lot of good info, thank you everyone! I'm feeling really good about the community here and its only my 2nd day. I appreciate the fact that macro's are not allowed; I appreciate it as much as 'bots' not allowed - one of the things that sparked my interest in this server.

Regarding my pally, its one of those classes I never finished 'live' but always liked the class for its support utility.

@ Dubren: Thanks alot for your insight - you said a lot of things that I personally feel. Going Highlander and damned if I didn't spec wrong in the beginning. Currently max with chants but chose slash (should have went crush - ill respect at 20)

Other than that, thanks again all.
See you on the battlefield

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Postby HulkGris » Dec 11, 2012 11:32

Magicco wrote:
HulkGris wrote:Automated twisting is forbidden... you mean a automated cycle on a long term basis or does a player is even not allowed to bind a 4 keys sequence on a G15 key ?

both is not allowed ;)

Not sure :
Blue wrote:
§7.1 Prohibition of hacks and tools
The usage of hacks or exploits will lead to the permanent ban of all accounts of the player. This includes radar tools, speedhacks, macrotools (leveltools) and sniffertools. In such cases the ban will be set without any notification of the player. Programmed hardware (keyboard, mouse) or the usage of other tools (even a small stick attached to the keyboard to continuously press a key) that causes the character to make actions while being away from the game are affected by this rule and will have the same consequences.

I hope you have read the rules.

It was exaclty the point of my question. If i bind a 3 key sequence that is triggered only once on a G15 key, it doesn't cause the character to make actions while being away from the game.
Btw, i don't have a G15 or similar stuff :D
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Postby skdante » Dec 11, 2012 12:26

ok a few tips for twisting :)
1st of all every chant takes 5% of your total endurance so if you twist many chants your endurance will be finished fast.
2nd i suggest for starters till you get atleast blue end to chant endurance first and leave open heal chant this will give you
double heal and will help you keep a nice hp for chaining the mobs.
explanation of double heal if you chant endurance first or any other chant and after you chant heal chant as the chant that stays open
till your next chanting before heal chant opens again for chanting (timer of heal chant is over) you get 1 extra heal so in 8 sec you get the 2 heals that you chanted and 1 extra before heal chants timer resets this will help you to keep hp up so you can pull without resting.
After geting blue endurance you can get dmg or af in the chanting game :)
in yellow end you can chant all 4 of em :)
if you cast endurance last your power is reduced.
thats for pve :) hope i helped.
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Postby imamizer » Dec 11, 2012 13:52

Just don't roll avalonian and you will be fine. Stats and resists from other 3 doesn't make a big difference for paladin. Autotrain (!) if you can.

Twisting order realy matters. You can twist every 8sec and each chant has a 6sec effect. When more heal is needed you can play your heal chant last and get 2 heal pulses per 8sec instead of 1 (helps a lot with taunting too). It's the same for endu. Other chants like da, shield, resists will be missing for 2 sec for every 8 sec. So playing elemental resists last is an option to have the effect constant when a rm/eld nuking hard for example.

For spec 46 chant is good for red elemental resists not dmg add. You will not have a friar in group after thidranki and there will always be a theu/wiz for dmg add.

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Postby Blue » Dec 11, 2012 14:12

HulkGris wrote:
Blue wrote:
§7.1 Prohibition of hacks and tools
The usage of hacks or exploits will lead to the permanent ban of all accounts of the player. This includes radar tools, speedhacks, macrotools (leveltools) and sniffertools. In such cases the ban will be set without any notification of the player. Programmed hardware (keyboard, mouse) or the usage of other tools (even a small stick attached to the keyboard to continuously press a key) that causes the character to make actions while being away from the game are affected by this rule and will have the same consequences.

I hope you have read the rules.

It was exaclty the point of my question. If i bind a 3 key sequence that is triggered only once on a G15 key, it doesn't cause the character to make actions while being away from the game.
Btw, i don't have a G15 or similar stuff :D

Its misleading how its written. Its not allowed to use hardware to automate anything. I can assure you that it will lead to a ban if something gets automated by tools or keyboard as soon as its detected. Regardless if the player is actively playing or away from keyboard.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."


Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

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Postby skdante » Dec 11, 2012 14:23

i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand.

if he was telling the truth then you sould have left him be blue :)
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