Every thing started the other night In DF when cause an aggro we all died and we asked the party beside to res us. A gentle person told the cleric in his group to not res us. Then we just spam in the broad the nice way to play of that person.
After that the person in question told us that he was Lifegiver and in the future he would exclude the entire guild from his dragon raids. Tonight he organised one raid and I sent him to see if that could be true. It was true.
No problem. In Italy we say when a Papa is dead we will make a new one.
But a girl in the guild did not know anything about it and after to be invited in the dragon raid was disbanded by Lifegiver because was a member of our guild.
Now Lifegiver alias Dontbreakmezz, thanks for keeping up your raids, I hope you will find better persons than us, but remember most of the time behind a gamer there is a person with the same character in the way that they play.

I add one thing: tonight Thidranki, a guild member Sanguine (Draghenazo) for no reason has made ​​a / rude to a member of our guild. I wonder one thing: now you have to ignore us and do these "gestures" among all members of our guild? Well I would say that is not the case. It's fine if you do not want your raid, you have things organized, free to choose who you want. But to create hatred among all the members do not sound like a good thing. I think for me the question can ask without any rancor, proving to be mature. I hope this is so for you too!

(I used a translator because I do not know English well, I hope you understand)

Ariakan

Ignore them or /callgm if they harass you.

I don't understand. Why would someone in DF deny to rezz you?

For what I understood (I repeat, my English is not good), things went more or less like this: we were creating group for exp, Dontbreakmezz was with us, at some point, he went with another party without saying anything, leaving the party and on. After a while we review it around and a person of my guild makes a / rude (just to "say hello" since he had not done so, perhaps here was our mistake, but for us it was finished). Another bit of time passes and our party (which was not all guild) dies. Ress ask around at a party, and we learn that his intimate Dontbreakmezz Resser not to. We do this in issue and annoyed / broad for its refusal and the thing has degenerated a bit. I admit that I was wrong to say a few words too, and in Italian, also receiving a warning from a GM because I did not speak English. However I do not see why so many people to drag in a "dispute" between 2/3 persons. For my part I'm wrong, I realized I overdid it and apologize, he said he forbids me to participate in its raid, I respect that, but I do not understand why people who do not have to include other offenses.

Ariakan

Oh God really my rude gesture to him just wanted to be a joke, nothing more, but the guy seemed really hurt.
Can be /rude gesture a cause of "war"??????
I think it woul be so so so so so ridiculous.
Anyway i'll going on to play even if the guy hates me X)
bb all

Probably he did not like the emot rude that a member of our guild did to him. Even though I could accept that he denied to ress all party for that reason, I do not understand his way to harass an entire guild threatening it to be banned from raids, its like he owns the dragon or legion.
When I go around with my friar I am like a bishop giving blessing (heals) and ress people, but probably not everyone is the same. Anyway if he likes to play that way its his problem, but the other players should know the way he plays.

Lets talk maturity, you made a thread to talk about how someone didn't rez you and denied your guild from going on a raid he was leading? Of course im in Sanguine, but seriously don't make a thread just talk to Lifegiver rather than make a meaningless thread about how someone hurt your feelings. Who knows maybe someone had a bad day, whatever, surprised this isn't a locked thread anyways since obviosuly a GM read it. Seems nothing more than a flame thread or close to someone getting mad about being grey ganked in DF.

Lets talk maturity, I dont care about DF, What I care its that a girl that did not know anything about DF was disbanded from a raid because only guilty to be part of a Guild.
Every one can have a bad day, who knows? Personally I play to relax myself and I dont bring my RL problems in a Game where you never know exactly who you play with, a 16 yr old child, or a 50 yr old man.
I dont see any flame and I dont want drive the post in that way.

Well this is lifegiver,
So let's explain this situation without bias. First of all yes i was with you guys for grp'ing and then i left to attempt to help my guildmates clear df. After this was done, i asked for re-invite and got none. So i started forming up my own group. Once we were filled, we ran down to the hulks spot....and on seeing that you guys already had the camp, we decided to roam and kill mobs down by the HL's. Well to my suprise....there you guys are, supposedly a hulks group raiding HL's (bad idea to start with), not only coming down to kill our spawns...but even piggybacking off or aggro. Not to mention getting /rude on the way down? And then u want my group to rez you? So you can continue to take our spawns? Nah i don't think so....obviously u failed to mention that the group that you were with wiped how many other times as well? 2 or 3? Ya...and as far as my raids go and I definitely do not own the dragon, but I am pretty sure i can pick whoever i want to come on them. My guild supports their guildmaster, so obviously we are discussing this is in guild chat. What he chose to do after that is not my problem. I don't appreciate being insulted in broad, or being posted on the forums about....and considering that you started it i don't feel bad about this at all

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This post is stupid... find something better to do with your time, maybe work on whatever got you banned from all his raids in the first place...

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Orihiime wrote:Hi

Hi ori

Send me some frogs!

Sounds like way too much drama. It takes way too much energy to maintain rivalries. But if he wants to be butthurt over one exp group, thats his perogative. In liue of a lifelong fued tho, I shall offer you some alternatives:

1) Duel of Champions. Each guild must select one fighter to represent them in the dispute. The victor determines the winning side of the arguement for who is or is not being a douche.

2) Enter negotiations with a third party mediator. He will ask you both totally unrelated questions about how things "make you feel", until you are both so discusted with him and his worthless (but expensive. you can pay Netchel for these services) help that you forget the original argument.

3) "Vote" for who is right. While a pole could accomplish this task. I suggest instead using copper given to Netchel as a means to count votes more reliably and prevent fraud. I will also accept silver, gold, and platinum. Whichever guild can moneybomb more plat wins the argument. all proceeds go to charity. where the vague label of charity is applied as Netchel decides.

4) Roll Mid, easy mode a group with as many zerkers as you can fit in it. Kill Lifegiver on the battlefield. But if you are leaving alb to do it... Can Netchel have your stuff?

5) Or we could all put on our big boy pants and get over it. Raid leaders tend to get an overactive sense of importance and entitlement. Luckily they really arent necessary. Dragon raids are terrible plat per hour. legion raids are marginally better, but anyone will lead one as there really isnt any leadership requried. and if you get a leader other than lifegiver, they might not steal 3p in seals every raid. althoguh they probably still will, because they can get away with it lol.

6) Or dont get over it. and troll. Heres a good way to do it:
- Wait for a raid. /anon so he cant see what guild you are in.
- send tell with class and level for raid. you can lie about class and claim you are a cleric/pally/theurg/merc to make sure you get in raid.
- say you are otw. as you are anon, this doesnt even require that you be on the way at all.
- wait until raid almost started. claim your dragonfly just landed, and you will brt. still dont show up.
- alternatively, claim that you died to aggro, give a loc somewhere in the W or NW side of the zone where there is a ton of aggro. ask for rez. when they cant find you, say you released because you thoguth nobody was coming. and are otw back from CS.
- its up to you if you ever get there or not. if you do arrive and he sees your guild. /s You mad bro? then pull dragon and leave.
- or wait fora raid. dont join bg, dont touch the dragon, but just hang out watching. the best place to hang out to watch is by the clerics. but by the tanks isnt a bad plan either. dont touch the dragon tho or you will get banned for addign on the mob. but if you are just watchign to learn from his greatness, whats the harm? now if you happen to get glared at and now know to move... and that causes half the support to get blown up, whos fault really is it? you were just trying to learn. and you werent in the bg to be informed of what to do. feed on the rage. /b You mad bro?

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