Plan is to kite enemies and kill overextented tanks while supports are being CCed.
With a slam+volley scouts can deal high spike dmg : 1500 in ~5sec, with some caster's assist it becomes almost impossible to heal.

Ofc having another caba or sorc would be better dmg, but I wanted to give you an original and efficient compo.

Ideally in a caster group your already going to be running 2 sorc 2 caba anyways, thats pretty standard, they are kind of what makes the group tick. The point of running 1 non-caster is for reliability, and a scout isn't as reliable as the others. Its a good blocker, thats about it. Volley has a cooldown, merc/reaver damage is constant and nearly as high, not to mention volley can break vital CC if the target is near another enemy tank, so its not always an option.

The list goes on, scout is not prefered, the OP is asking for advice, you shouldn't give him questionable untested information. Original and efficient? What is efficient about 1 trick dmg capability, or an easier to kill guarder. Sure, a scout could work, but a merc will outclass them anyday, its just better.

KXT wrote: , or an easier to kill guarder..

well, if you believe i am easier to kill than a pala, than you are wrong..PD5 + MoB3 + evade3 doing wonders..

i am taking lesser damage than a paladin, and that IS tested..

you are right,,scout is not the best for groups (there i agree with you)..but he can do very well if the player can play.
i prefer a good played scout over every average played arms/merc/pala. nothing else i tryed to say..
but all you say is: scout are ******..exclude em from every group because i dont like em.
thank god ppl minded like you getting lesser and lesser.

Musikus wrote:

KXT wrote: , or an easier to kill guarder..

well, if you believe i am easier to kill than a pala, than you are wrong..PD5 + MoB3 + evade3 doing wonders..

i am taking lesser damage than a paladin, and that IS tested..

you are right,,scout is not the best for groups (there i agree with you)..but he can do very well if the player can play.
i prefer a good played scout over every average played arms/merc/pala. nothing else i tryed to say..
but all you say is: scout are ******..exclude em from every group because i dont like em.
thank god ppl minded like you getting lesser and lesser.

What he is actually saying is that other tanks will be able to fulfill the role the scout would have just as good if not better. However, scout might do a good job aswell.

We don't need constant dmg, we need high dmg when we decide to quickly kill. That is why i tought about a scout. Reaver can be nice aswell with leviathan or even better another caster but we loose a slam.

Let's stop this scout or not scout war :p

KXT wrote:~Sorc: I'd recommend a split spec sorc 37mind/39 body

Nice option, but i'd prefear a 44mind sorc for the last AOE mezz.
On live servers i played witha mate full mind (49 mind for Invulnerable Mind) and he was a great mezzer/demezzer.
Ok, he wasn't a good debuffer, but (imho) i prefear a great mezzer
You don't like friar, ok, but you will meet mine at 50
(not Enh/staff as usual, but balanced one )
BTW the real problem of our realm is the "cabby power" one: we have a lot of Cabalist, and few clerics, minstrels and, over all, sorcerors.
Oh, and few ice wizzies :p

Keep in mind the mind sorc has a crappier aoe root, so even if the mezz is stronger his overall CC capability will be weaker, and he can't debuff and has poor damage. The aoe root is the big point, very important, mezz doesn't necessarily stay, with demez and the amount of purge/purge3/det5+stoic tanks in the format, but the root that comes second usually will stick.
Ya I agree there are too many cabalists, most of them just try to make up for bad play skill with high lvls of NS, in the end its still gimp.

Yeah, AoE root can be a nice backup, but we play with a sorc (the mate) and a mincer (me, one of my alts) so i was the single and AoE backup

Cleric (42 enh/33 rejuv)
Cleric (42 enh/33 rejuv)
Pally (slam)
Sorc (red heat debuff)
Theurg (earth) or Minstrel
Cab (tri spec, yellow ns)
Wizard (fire)
Wizard (fire)

You just won.

Cleric buffs/heal > shear & buff bot
Cleric heal/buff > heal bot
Friar buff/heal > resist bot
Minstrel > speed, demezz bot
Armsman > slam, snare, guard with stoicism bot
Cab ns/body > ns red bot
Cab debuff/body > debuff red bot
Sorc 39/37

With lw2+end pot, the paladin is replaced by a more effective defensive tank.
Spike dmg at will with the caster assist.
4 pets.
Strong heal AH.
The only real problem is the utility of the minstrel except the speed/sos/demezz, he doesnt deal any damage compared to another sorcerer in assist with a red debuff cab. But in a caster group the speed is a necessity obviously, specially without the ToA cut speed. So if more dps is needed, a dmg spec sorc for the cleric heal.

You really forget the ruppt utility in a minstrel?

man man...

A speed5 hib do that better eh
Precisely in a caster group, ie kiting

Actually, Albs are better kiters than Hibs.

Maybe, but that wasn't the point here. The utility of albion classes are just too spread.

Minstrel hardly interrupt as efficient as a theurg.