2Hand Bugged or not?
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sry no, i dont have the time to make it proof. just a imagine : a archerclass can kill easy tank/dmgdealer/assasian -class in melee. u know what i am talking about and why i believe there must be smth wrong. but no, its not proof
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Actually I think that a few years ago Blue or some other dev claimed that the ws tables are implemented rather poorly here...
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Scout and rangers got same melee dmg table as bard! My scout is 50 slash and hardly do more than 100 dmg (average 70/80) with a 3.6 weapon when rangers are able to do 200+ main hand(170/180 average) Is it a proof? You can still try to spec a bard 50weapon and see what are his dmg... |
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Wrong. The opposite is the case. WS is nearly live like on Uth. WS factors of classes are correct for years. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..." |
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What about reaver/savage/vw when using flex/h2h/scythe? On live that is a better table than the normal hybrid table, isn't uthgard treating them as normal hybrid table? |
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I remember that topic, a few of us tested the WS factor for Rangers because everyone was whining about how they were overpowered and found it to be correct.
However I am convinced that Thanes are on the wrong damage table, and possibly Wardens. They actually do respectable melee damage here, unlike on Live. |
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Just compare Weaponskill of an Uth Thane with a live Thane.
Thane sits on factor 1.8 (or Tier 7) See this for reference: http://www.dethguild.com/daoc/info/info ... ml#anchor8 We missed out weapon type dependend factor changes. Currently we distinct between bow and melee factors only. So for example Savages do a bit too less damage when using H2H weapons. But it has nothing to do with 2H damage which is the topic here, right? It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..." |
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Thane is on Tier 10 in that table you linked.
 And it should be, they do too much damage here. Tier 7 is only for shield damage on hybrids, not weapons. If I remember correctly, this is the table that Uthgard uses (translated from German):
Reavers with Flex and H2H Savages do too little damage (should be the same as Valewalkers), Thanes, Bard, Warden, Healer, Shaman do too much damage, Friars with Staff do too little, Hunter with Spear shouldn't be the same as a Hunter with Sword and so on. But you're right, it's not connected to the topic, although it would be good to have a topic to discuss it. Last edited by Nymeros on May 04, 2011 14:13, edited 1 time in total.
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Current Uthgard implementation takes this http://de.daocpedia.eu/index.php/Schadenstabelle as reference. Yes, and I see some diffs to the other table.
Sorry for my mistake, its only tier 7 for Thane using shields. So its most propable that the factors in our table are made with one specific weapon and weapon type was ignored beside for ranged weapons. Maybe somebody should find out WS factors again in regard to the weapons used since the one tier table doesnt have numbers attached to it. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..." |
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Yup, that's the one I quoted, I just translated it.
Should we test this somehow? It doesn't seem correct at all. Is there maybe a chance of decimal tiers existing, such as 1.79 or something like that? Edit: Didn't see the rest of your post. So Live tests could help? At least with classes that didn't have any changes in Weaponskill. |
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Yes if we want to verify the whole weaponskill factors I don't see other chances than intensive live tests for every class/weapon combination. As long as Weaponskill is shown its easy. But I doubt they show weaponskill for shields.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..." |
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I would be happy if somebody takes the task and measure these factors on live as its quite important.
The task is: Find out how much Weaponskill raises when the damage stat is raised. Eg. How much WS you gain by adding 100 STR while wearing a certain weapon. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..." |
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Most Rangers use 3.9 mainhand if they're Piercing or 4.2 mainhand if they're Blades.  Isn't Albion studded weak to Pierce anyway?[3:10pm] <myrmidon^> You have to be a c*** to be awesome at daoc
[3:10pm] <myrmidon^> that's what I learnt [3:11pm] <Frosty_> then why does austerim suck
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Btw in the table above (http://www.dethguild.com/daoc/info/info ... ml#anchor8) there was a clear difference between Hunter Sword and Hunter Spear. But that was tested on live by me and I found no such difference. Both had the same factor. So I dont know how much this table can be trusted.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..." |
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To answer the original question,2H dmg are ok,only WS/AF defense penetration is bugged.
You get good damages but don't hit enough,that's all.  |
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