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burfo Myrmidon Posts: 77 Joined: Nov 10, 2009 01:00	Reply with quote by burfo » Dec 02, 2009 05:19 Harting wrote:haha funny to read strange comments and advices, like that ones by Der_Eisbaer. talking without trying on their own on uthgard ftw i played rr8 friar on uthgard so if u want my unimportant opinion: friar is weak on grp rvr. but its rly strong, maybe the strongest one in 1v1 on uthgard. got an awesome defense and deal good dmg (oc if u got decent specc, not that strange speccs u got told to specc ^^). its also usefull on pvm if u like that knd of daoc^^ only skill specc and ra matters. play ur friar, atleast in bgs its fun since many ppl think u r a caster and u pull them out of heal range and kill em but if u prefer grp rvr, i rly would try another char, as dominique said.. for healing: cleric, for dmg merc or reaver Please feel free to post a good spec for us to use. Burfo

Der_Eisbaer Eagle Knight Posts: 535 Joined: Feb 21, 2008 01:00	Reply with quote by Der_Eisbaer » Dec 02, 2009 09:55 Harting wrote:haha funny to read strange comments and advices, like that ones by Der_Eisbaer. talking without trying on their own on uthgard ftw i played rr8 friar on uthgard so if u want my unimportant opinion: friar is weak on grp rvr. but its rly strong, maybe the strongest one in 1v1 on uthgard. got an awesome defense and deal good dmg (oc if u got decent specc, not that strange speccs u got told to specc ^^). its also usefull on pvm if u like that knd of daoc^^ only skill specc and ra matters. play ur friar, atleast in bgs its fun since many ppl think u r a caster and u pull them out of heal range and kill em but if u prefer grp rvr, i rly would try another char, as dominique said.. for healing: cleric, for dmg merc or reaver Please feel free to write objective disproves of what I said.

uncletoma Warder Posts: 8 Joined: Aug 24, 2009 00:00 Location: Near to Heaven Website	Reply with quote by uncletoma » Dec 02, 2009 18:25 Don't delete your friar. Friars aren't useless, they are good for resistances, healing (yes, there are ppl that speec friar enh/heal... not me :p) and nice dd. Imho u must specc ur friar as: 1) 39, 24, 47, rest 2) 35 heal, 47 ehm, 2x (don't remember) staff, rest (4 or 5 parry)

KXT Myrmidon Posts: 94 Joined: Mar 06, 2009 01:00	Reply with quote by KXT » Dec 03, 2009 00:44 Friar can work in pvm [anything can work in pvm], but its really weak in rvr, especially in group rvr - despite resists I consider it to be a low utility class it doesn't really do much of anything. Can't heal like a cleric, bad rupter, bad damage, resists and extra buff unecessary - pala can twist if necessary.

Harting Gryphon Knight Posts: 247 Joined: Aug 25, 2007 00:00	Reply with quote by Harting » Dec 03, 2009 03:42 welllllllll dont spec points to heal. u cant heal, accept it just raise it to cure disease/poison dont go 44 staff, its rly not worth the points hmhm high ench... if u like that red heat resist specc it, i prefer only 45 for dexqui so u r uo for a good solo specc. for grp rvr better raise a 2nd char^^ ofc there are some interesting speccs for grg rvr like that grp hot buffs, but its still low utillity :p friars are also rly strong in duo with a tank. ~Sinalco~ いつでも今日が、いちばん楽しい日.

Tiberian Warder Posts: 25 Joined: Jul 13, 2008 00:00	Reply with quote by Tiberian » Dec 29, 2009 17:55 I made a dmgtest :::friar unbuffed: 10x sidehits with 29+14 staff: dmg of all 10 hits / 10 = 146.1dmg (Weaponskill 920) 10x sidehits with 39+14 staff: dmg of all 10 hits / 10 = 155.1 dmg (weaponskill 981) 100% = 146.1 1% = 1.461 ? = 155.1 / 1.461 -> 106.16% -> 6.16% more dmg with 39 staff than with 29 And now by the way: 10x sidehits 44+14 staff: dmg of all 10 hits / 10 = 178.3 dmg (Weaponskill 1011) 10x sidehits 50+14 staff: dmg of all 10 hits / 10 = 189.2 dmg (Weaponskill 1048) Thats interesting because the difference between 39-50 is much higher than 29-39 (all same style : sidestyle)

Der_Eisbaer Eagle Knight Posts: 535 Joined: Feb 21, 2008 01:00	Reply with quote by Der_Eisbaer » Dec 29, 2009 17:58 Staff's duration was kept constant during the test? You did not use two different staffs with two different swing speed values? Value of quickness was kept constant during the test? Did you take into account that rising the weapon spec rises your base damage as well as your styles' growth rate? Last edited by Der_Eisbaer on Dec 29, 2009 18:38, edited 1 time in total.

Razzer Eagle Knight Posts: 913 Joined: Jul 04, 2009 00:00 Location: Behind Enemy Lines	Reply with quote by Razzer » Dec 29, 2009 18:14 I think it's the amount of hits. 10 hits aren't representative for a good comparison. Uthgard till 2003!

Tiberian Warder Posts: 25 Joined: Jul 13, 2008 00:00	Reply with quote by Tiberian » Dec 29, 2009 18:14 Same char, stats, weapon, ... I got help from a gm. More than 10 would be better right but if we have a look on all specc-tests it seems ok. More weaponskill more dmg. My spec will be: 39 staff, 7 rej, 45 en, 25 parry

pdp101 Warder Posts: 19 Joined: Sep 11, 2007 00:00	Reply with quote by pdp101 » Jan 01, 2010 17:48 I'm pretty sure when you're leveling you keep enh 1 or 2 levels below your level with the rest in staff and you should be pretty good. Keep it up all the way till you get your final enh spec then dump the rest in to other crap like rejuv and parry that got neglected for 48 levels.

DanGer666 Phoenix Knight Posts: 1399 Joined: Feb 03, 2006 01:00	Reply with quote by DanGer666 » Jan 01, 2010 19:56 i like to get the 7 reju first, so you can heal disease and dots in rvr

nixian Forum Moderator Posts: 5450 Joined: May 19, 2006 00:00	Reply with quote by nixian » Jan 01, 2010 19:59 DanGer666 wrote:i like to get the 7 reju first, so you can heal disease and dots in rvr not really needed for the first 30 lvls of lvling

DanGer666 Phoenix Knight Posts: 1399 Joined: Feb 03, 2006 01:00	Reply with quote by DanGer666 » Jan 01, 2010 20:23 you did not meet the nice snakes in salisbury yet hm? or the monster-chickens.

nixian Forum Moderator Posts: 5450 Joined: May 19, 2006 00:00	Reply with quote by nixian » Jan 01, 2010 20:42 DanGer666 wrote:you did not meet the nice snakes in salisbury yet hm? or the monster-chickens. get a grp and a cleric ^^

zenobya Myrmidon Posts: 146 Joined: Aug 10, 2009 00:00	Reply with quote by zenobya » Jan 07, 2010 10:38 for friar leveling i sugest go for 29 staf till level 29 and rest fo teh point on enchant couse till level 35 ench means nothign so much coperison to staff(your main kiling purpose) after geting anytmer mediocre friars boon you can spec till what ever your final ench spec is.