True Post - Bolts in Group as was Live, or maybe Fixed?

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Postby DrakinKoran1 » Jul 08, 2016 21:48

I apologize for asking this, and I know it would be a custom change (likely at least), but will the Developers be fixing (or trying to fix) the brokenness of Bolts as they were on Live at 1.65? What I mean, for any who don't remember or aren't familiar, is the fact that Mythic was never able to fix (back then at least, not sure on live now) the problems with using them in a group once Combat started due to the inherent problems that caused them to be almost worthless in those situations. Yes, bolts were great Solo (even if power hungry), but in a group, shy of using a low level one for pulling, they were just useless. And in RvR it was just as bad once the battle started due to the in combat issue.. If not, I can understand, but I hope that the answer is yes, SOME sort of fix can/will be implemented. It would be nice to feel like a Fire (or even a Fire/Matter, though slightly less so) Wizard could bring at least a little extra to the table for groups (and yes, I know.. even those Blasted Eldd and Runecarvers would Benefit, but I guess sometimes you have to take the ouch to get to the mmmmmmm lol.

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Postby Kosmokrator » Jan 05, 2017 18:12

Can we get an answer? Would love to play a wizard in rvr sometime

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Postby pweet » Jan 05, 2017 18:34

Its hard to understand what your claim is. Did you login on uth and tested if it works how you think it should?
Appart from defending Wizz is pretty bad in rvr anyway. I would not suggest making one

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Postby Jarqo » Jan 05, 2017 19:09

My eld did 770+ spec bolt dmg vs Dummy and yellow mobs, with crit i could oneshot yellow mobs(if got enought luck).
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Postby defill » Jan 05, 2017 19:45

dont think hes questioning if a bolt hurts when it lands.

his problem is the 'target in combat so your bolt is useless' thing which is a real issue. Obviously not one you will come across bolting a dummy.

i did not play one later in beta, but earlier in beta i did play a void eld and it was indeed a problem, at least in pve.
I could not use bolts in group setting.

i did a wiz in caledonia for the week that people were playing there after i30, but it was mostly stand off type stuff with it, so didn't notice a rvr problem. someone im sure can weigh in on that.

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Postby DrakinKoran1 » Jan 05, 2017 23:48

Yes, my question was as Defill stated, the fact that in combat you could not actually hit the target with a bolt (or if you could, if was quite rare), whether they were blocking or not, from the front, or behind or anything due to the always getting the "Target in combat etc etc etc" Thing, which made Fire Wizards fairly limited in Groups (as in, very limited since that is their Bread and Butter)... and Yes, I know they have a good spec nuke, but that has a shorter range, and since most everyone has Fire resistance anyways (Damn Heat Based Stuns from Hibs makes sure of that lol), it brings that down to pretty much the same as a regular nuke from any other caster, or less. Fire wizards also bring very, very little to the table beyond that as they are designed to be a DPS spec, not a utility one, which I am fine with, if they could actually bring real DPS to bear. Even in PvE they are not as good in Groups because of this Target in Combat thing, though they ARE better than in RvR, but that is just due to Mobs not having the kind of Heat resists that Players do. I played Leveled mine to 50 the old fashioned way on the test server, and then played some RvR, and I could take out a Squishy at range who wasn't in combat, no problem (mind you I was Subbed into Earth, so I had three bolts, all of close to equal power, just in case), but to be honest, I don't remember ever actually hitting a target while it was in combat, however, I Didn't get enough testing in with it to be sure since my Hours were always off from everyone and it was mostly quiet when I went out.

Anyways, long story short.. yes, as Defill stated, That was my question... and would still like an answer please.

Thank you for your time, and patience.


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