Hey everyone,

I haven't played DAoC since early 2003; needless to say I'm pretty out of the loop. I've narrowed my choices down to:

Reaver
Theurg
Cabbie
Cleric

What kind've role does each one play in end game RvR and which ones will have an easier time leveling up? I'm starting completely fresh with no one to help me out if that's a factor as well.

Cabbie, easy to lvl solo, cheap to upkeep (just need a focus staff), and with a cleric duo (or + sorc trio) the xp will come pretty fast.

Appreciate the reply. Started one this morning. level 8 now.

If you want similar utility as a mins yet high demand in a group, with no need to auto train, go with a sorc. Sorcs can solo and are always in high demand in groups.

I have both, and have ocd, so I AT'd my minstrel, as my first toon. It's pretty painful but it's worth the extra effort imo for min/max type players.

Aten wrote:Reaver
Theurg
Cabbie
Cleric

What kind've role does each one play in end game RvR and which ones will have an easier time leveling up? I'm starting completely fresh with no one to help me out if that's a factor as well.

Role :
Reaver -> interrupt caster and deal, yes tank can deal here, they are not only interrupt bot
Cleric -> well... obvious
Cabbi -> root/ns/disease and deal, tri spec !
Theur -> interrupt@spam pet

Theur and Cab are the cheapest to stuff, so both are nice for a 1st char.
Cabb is by far the fastest to xp, but you have to spec it Matter. And matter is not PvP friendly. You can choose a 41 matter / 35 body / 3 spirit template to be a nice PvE class and ok for RvR, but without debuff, you won't deal enough damage, except if you find a 2 cab group. And other point : Cab is not a raid class.
Theurgist is slower to xp, but needed in all group : PvE and Raid for haste/add dmg, PvP for his spam pet. And a PvP spec is ok for PvE too.

good to hear that you dont want to roll a stealther as first char! too your question:

I would not recommend a caba if you aim for end game! I would say run a theurg or a cleric, from the classes you mentioned, because the typical alb pvp grp has the following setup:

2 tanks (1 merc and merc/reaver)
2 clerics
1 sorc
1 theurg
1 paladin
1 spot where you can place another tank (merc/reaver), a ministrel or a caba

so with a new 4L2 caba you will have hard times to find a grp for pvp (just 1 spot is for caba, and u have to divide it with other cabas, ministrels and other dds/tanks), count the spots for the other classes and guess yourself.

same for pve, a cabba is only asked for big raids with 2 fg+ (and even there its no must have), most small raids are without cabba (e.g. typical tajendi grp/typical gk group, and so on)

and

a caba have to decide: do i want to be a pve or a pvp char, and you have to spec for this (high matter or not), nobody in pvp will take a matter cabba and nobody in pve will take a cabba without matter spec)

if you want a recommendation for reaver/caba/theu/cleric, my is the following: cabba<reaver<theu<cleri, so imo run a theu if u want a char with a rly cheap template and the possibility to level solo a bit, if the template can take a bit more money and you have no problems to search for a grp also in low level ranges run a cleric (cleri temp is not what i would call expensive, too).

greetings

reaver are most of time for solo, not grouped except in a pug , you'll rp more in solo spec / small man

LindsayLohan wrote:reaver are most of time for solo, not grouped except in a pug , you'll rp more in solo spec / small man

umm... no.

Thanks for the replies all.

preak wrote:good to hear that you dont want to roll a stealther as first char! too your question:

I would not recommend a caba if you aim for end game! I would say run a theurg or a cleric, from the classes you mentioned, because the typical alb pvp grp has the following setup:

2 tanks (1 merc and merc/reaver)
2 clerics
1 sorc
1 theurg
1 paladin
1 spot where you can place another tank (merc/reaver), a ministrel or a caba

so with a new 4L2 caba you will have hard times to find a grp for pvp (just 1 spot is for caba, and u have to divide it with other cabas, ministrels and other dds/tanks), count the spots for the other classes and guess yourself.

same for pve, a cabba is only asked for big raids with 2 fg+ (and even there its no must have), most small raids are without cabba (e.g. typical tajendi grp/typical gk group, and so on)

and

a caba have to decide: do i want to be a pve or a pvp char, and you have to spec for this (high matter or not), nobody in pvp will take a matter cabba and nobody in pve will take a cabba without matter spec)

if you want a recommendation for reaver/caba/theu/cleric, my is the following: cabba<reaver<theu<cleri, so imo run a theu if u want a char with a rly cheap template and the possibility to level solo a bit, if the template can take a bit more money and you have no problems to search for a grp also in low level ranges run a cleric (cleri temp is not what i would call expensive, too).

greetings

Well, right now I'm really enjoying my Cab. I'd imagine a Cab is pretty good for soloing in RvR as well, no? I'm also located in Australia so I'm not sure I'll be around during peak hours. It seems like there are only 4 or 5 people PvPing when I play. Worst case Ontario I'd have a good farming character and could reroll a Theurg/Sorc/Cleric.

All casters are bad solo classes, since even the worst assasin will 2 shot you
Apfelsina summed it up pretty well.

poplik wrote:

LindsayLohan wrote:reaver are most of time for solo, not grouped except in a pug , you'll rp more in solo spec / small man

umm... no.

hum yes , at low rr reaver have only deter5 , without stoicism it's crap and need purge also.you tell no cause your guild run with reaver but what rr are reaver of your guild? you got the highest rr reaver of uthgard in your ^^ can run deter 5 purge 3. only sanasas and sometimes dokho play in group. all others are solo or small man or in night pug^^

LindsayLohan wrote:

poplik wrote:

LindsayLohan wrote:reaver are most of time for solo, not grouped except in a pug , you'll rp more in solo spec / small man

umm... no.

hum yes , at low rr reaver have only deter5 , without stoicism it's crap and need purge also.you tell no cause your guild run with reaver but what rr are reaver of your guild? you got the highest rr reaver of uthgard in your ^^ can run deter 5 purge 3. only sanasas and sometimes dokho play in group. all others are solo or small man or in night pug^^

Every time I see Maelle or Ori's posts I want to start a "back to elementary school donation drive" for them, because their English and grammar makes me cringe.

Sorry to be off topic, but cant resist the urge.

Anyway, I agree with you otherwise Maelle, after taking an additional 2 minutes to translate your broken English and 1st grade grammar.

i don't care what you think about my english , i'm french , just try to speak french then i can laugh too

sure, we have high RR reavers but we wouldn't shun any reaver, you usually need at least one merc but after that reaver is very nice. I don't think I have ever been in group that actively refused to group reavers.

edit: Also each of these classes has to fulfill very different role in group, I would personally decide according to what I want to do and what I think I would enjoy.