Hi,

I am slash infi and use amethyst from Slash as anytimer backed up with the evade line from CS and of course the stealth styles and most positional ones..
now, how should I skill?
everywhere I find 50 weapon/44 CS yet why? I hardly use the 50 style from neither line so shouldn't I skill 44 weapon/50 CS?
I would be looking forward getting some good explanation for either way... thx

50 weapon is ment to have for a thrust infi, since he get a stun on evade at that level.
If you are not Thrust, you can drop the weapon to 36 until rank 5, and then you might wanna decrease it by 1 pt every rank you do, so 35 at rank 6, 34 at rank 7 etc (you want to have 51 with bonus, so at rank 5 is 36 + 11 + 4, etc). With the points you get, you can increase dual wield.

So they always say 50 weapon for a simple reason, cos all infis are trust, and there is a reason for that
First of all you should not use ametist slash as anytime, yeah, you have very high bonus to hit, but its not worth it, especially in PvP. That style might be useful for a paladin that has to tank a purple +++++ mob (les say prince? beliathan? Dragon?) to reduce the miss rate, and he wouldnt care about growt rate, since the dmg on such mobs is low anyway. But as an infi, especially in PvP, what you should care about is Damage, and the Cs anytime combo (garrote + Achilles heel) has much more damage then ametist slash, and also some nice style effects: hinder + slow.

so said that, basically you are always using CS styles and never slash styles: Perforate artery, Creeping Death, Stunning Stab, Backstab, Thig Cut, Harmstring, Leaper, Rib Separation, Garrote, Achilles Heel.

so you can chose your samage line without caring about the style it gives, Trust or slash, but caring about the dmg. So why trust?

1 - you gain str every 3 level, and dex every level, you final dex is much higher then you final str, since thrust dmg is based half dex half str, using thrust will give you more ws and dmg.
2 - when a debuff Str/con poison is used on you by other assassin using slash dmg will give you a 100% penalty on the str you lost, you ll have 50% penalty with thrust.
3 - With Thrust you get the stun at lvl 50 (5 sec stun can make the difference between a won battle and a lost one). considering that you evade a lot, you will almost always have the chance to land that stun on a 1v1. So if not purged, you enemy will be standing for 5 seconds. In that time you got all the time to land your powerful 3styles combo: Harmstring + Leaper + Rib Separation
4 - with trust you get a nice bonus on enemies armor rather then slash. Neutral on hibs, bonus on mid chain, malus on sbs/hunter/zerk. With slash you got bonus on sb/zerk/hunter and druids/hero/champ, and Malus on ALL the others (including ranger/ns) that you will probably find very often out there.

in 2 words here is my template for rank 5:
thrust 50
cs 44
poison 35
stealth 35
Dw - rest

you want Cs as high as possible since you get dmg bonus when using Cs styles, and you are always using cs styles as an infi

hope was helpful

thanks a lot indeed,
one question on garotte, this one eats endu like crazy, isn't it more efficient to "spam" amethyst vs garotte if you have to spam?

Another point you might want to consider, after creeping death, assuming you didnt evade, basaliskfang is a nice style to use while they are stunned, and with a 50 spec in thrust, thats nice damage, and a great attack speed debuff for when the stun wears off. Outside of that and dragonfang, thrust is a pretty unimpressive line on 1.8.

Hamstring/leaper is outrageously good damage.

If after RR5 you feel you still want to to slash, i see no problem with it. With remedy you dont need to worry about debuffs anymore, so the str decrease is moot. Also, assuming you started with 75str/70dex the slash and 70/70 on the thrust one, weaponskill value youd be working with at 50 would be 90str or 100 from str/dex. Its not an outrageously huge difference, and any aug str RAs you pick up are 100% WS and not 50% like aug dex/str with thrust. In the end, the difference is not so big.

thanks for that input... I am thinking of the evade chance which IIRC is optimized with 250dex/250qui which means I would also save a lot for my temp

you ll never have 250 quick on this server, Buffbots are notallowed. and there is no sitution when you gotta spam style... if you dont kill whitin 10 seconds you are dead. You life will drain faster then your endurance. Anyway Ametist is not that cheap as a style, you gain 3% endu u lose like 10% dmg.

If you cant resist going slash cos you love the swords and that style too much I d suggest you to go slash, I might be wrong... and a respec stone costs just some bps... that you ll surely have very soon