ZaiQQ wrote:

borog wrote:I bet that 12 extra str/con will see people autowin all the time and if you paid 60p for this necklace then more fool them.

For casuals this makes no difference, but for the tweakers.. well you can see the QQ.

12 more d/q.... but its 18 more s/c, thats almost aug str3 difference.

Aug str3 + aug constit 3 ^^

Orihiime wrote:

ZaiQQ wrote:

borog wrote:I bet that 12 extra str/con will see people autowin all the time and if you paid 60p for this necklace then more fool them.

For casuals this makes no difference, but for the tweakers.. well you can see the QQ.

12 more d/q.... but its 18 more s/c, thats almost aug str3 difference.

Aug str3 + aug constit 3 ^^

Ah right, only equivalent to 20 realmskill points

Abydos wrote:I never said I don't understand why players wont be upset. People are often upset by change, whether it be in game or in IRL. That being said, "on uthgard" is no excuse. Hibs and Albs will never get a 75 value version of Necklace of the Body.

As far as the existing charges, you still haveexactly what you had before.

That's not true, i had 75 value charges till they had been nerved to 63 and now i have 63 value charges but 75 are available again, so your statement is just not true.
If u want it like Parable_of_the_Workers_in_the_Vineyard you have to raise the values of the old charges up to 75 too, because they farmed their charges like the others, just at another time

lemme fix it for you

read the story of the vineyard guy.
but with a smaller change

the owner of the vineyard gives everyone one coin per day. everything is okay
after some years the owner says, "f*ck ya all, i take 1/4 of your savings(!) and now everyone earns only 3/4 coin per day". everything get used to the situation
now some new workers come to the workplace and earn 1 coin per day like the old worker, but only them. the older work lost something of their savings and never get as much as the newer worker. the only way to get as much as the newer, is to take a big amount n hard amount of work to get a new employment.

TL;DR
abydos your comparsion is so gimp, so wrong and gimp

if you would say, "those were ALL custom so pf, bad luck eh" is something than can be accepted, but please not the vineyard story

So perhaps it isnt a 100% fit if and only if you are a MID, and you received your necklace of the body before it was moved to Legion.

If you're a HIB or ALB with a necklace of the body, you have a customization.

Really dont understand the point of releasing the 75 value charges prior to si

another idea would be let all them drop 63 value charges still but with the new items
and when si comes out change only the new items to 75

You have just outdone yourself Abydos

Even in the early days of Brotherland you would not see stuff like this happen!
Can you promise that we will get SI in 2012?
If not, then why even make this change now. Just wait until after SI, as there is zero valid reasons to implement three new custom items just to be an arse.

To everyone thinking this change only affects solo players. You people are dead wrong.
Ask any light tank, shield tank, caster or supporter. Given the choice, would you want red or yellow spec buff?

Do i get +75 Int now with the new charges?
First Caster love if ve seen on Uth that far then

pweet wrote:Do i get +75 Int now with the new charges?
First Caster love if ve seen on Uth that far then

Request it in the item thread as specified in original post

Austerim already found a Robe with 75Acuity buff, woohoo 3-4% more DMG

Abydos wrote:

pweet wrote:Do i get +75 Int now with the new charges?
First Caster love if ve seen on Uth that far then

Request it in the item thread as specified in original post

what about my self crafted charges? +75 int and +75 spec af?

Abydos wrote:I never said I don't understand why players wont be upset. People are often upset by change, whether it be in game or in IRL. That being said, "on uthgard" is no excuse. Hibs and Albs will never get a 75 value version of Necklace of the Body.

Then simply put at BK or somewhere else, an npc that will convert old necklaces into the new objects according to the realm.
You will take away custom objects from the game and people will be happy, because they will not suffer and pay for the correction of a mistake made by staff in the past. We all know your will is and was good, but practically you are correcting a wrong correction.
This way you are punishing all those normal players that have gathered their necklaces with many months of efforts, because now those objects are depreciated. Otherwise H24 players will rush for the new objects while "normal" ones will stay watching.
It would be normal and logical if we were talking about a new expansion coming in. But we are talking about a wrong experiment you made and that you are correcting.
Don't treat us like cavies please

Abydos wrote:As far as the existing charges, you still haveexactly what you had before.

The latter labourers, that worked less, got same wage as first comers, not more

jeah plz dont treat us like cavies...that would be nice...and GMs not behaving like cavies either, would be even better

Abydos wrote:I never said I don't understand why players wont be upset. People are often upset by change, whether it be in game or in IRL. That being said, "on uthgard" is no excuse. Hibs and Albs will never get a 75 value version of Necklace of the Body.

As far as the existing charges, you still haveexactly what you had before.

Then why shouldn't we be able to exchange our "custom item" for the new hib/alb items?