If mids can't SOS on inc anymore they are just gonna stand perfectly still and throw their hands up in the air completely unsure of what happens next

fiskgrodan wrote:I like that Old RAs are coming and minimizing custom stuff.

But I also wish that all the current Tajendi items and other old items that dont drop anymore would be deleted or decayed somehow to be fair to new players.

Tajendi items will decay faster than other items.

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32333

holsten-knight wrote:

realac0 wrote:About rvr
Dark days are coming for mids ... shiny for albs ...
In general, all will be better and more intetesting ...

except for mids, as you already noticed

I just read the whole thread and the QQ posts alternate "new players have no chance" and "old players will have to start from scratch with all their templates and stuff" ... could you at least decide who is going to be nerfed and have to leave the server? Would make it more easy to read.

Do you really think those whiners will ever find a decision about that?
QQ I need a new template QQ muuummmyyyyy!

Dafuq, stop acting like tards, and just do RvR with the old templates until they decay totally, or just do RvR with a Non-All-Cap-Template.

Jesus Christ, all players will have to change their templates or whatever.

And yah, blabla, the new players have no chance QQ... I´d pay 100$ for a good cause if one of those tards with this argument will leave the poor new players alone in their low RR pug, instead of rolling them with their setgroup. QQ.

And when will we see this change actually going live ?

Runis wrote:Old RA's wont change anything. SI wont change anything.

Neither does your QQ

My solo bard is going to pwn !

mohz wrote:

fiskgrodan wrote:I like that Old RAs are coming and minimizing custom stuff.

But I also wish that all the current Tajendi items and other old items that dont drop anymore would be deleted or decayed somehow to be fair to new players.

Tajendi items will decay faster than other items.

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32333

Alright I missed that thread, seems like what I wanted

svperstar wrote:

Austerim wrote:Glad a lot of my chars will be made worthless with Old RAs!

I can't wait to see how someone like Zachnafien/Zachnamid likes Ranger/Hunter with See Hidden and no MOS hahahaha

Made my day on this comment. Hey, I will freely admit that I did not want to see old RA's come to the server, but as I have said over the last few days on the server, if we are aiming for 1.69 then lets go for 1.69 and quit all this customization crap. I would rather know the flawed system I am working with then to have a more balanced system based on custom features where every so many months something gets added or taken away or tweaked. When that starts happening I just get angry because I have no clue how to plan my character.

Dont worry Svp, you will see me out there on both toons with Old RA's. I cant wait till the first time you come on here to QQ when I use True Sight and pop you from about 1500 units away and kill you before you even get to me. Then the next time I pop you I will have 100% ip and purge up, so that should be win #2. Then I will be sure to go walk over to the middle of nowhere and go AFK for 30 minutes and I wait for my RA's to come back. I've played the class on Classic RA's. Sure, I prefer the New RA's, but I will adapt and get by just fine w/ Old RA's. I seem to recall many people saying my hunter would fail as a solo class, and I believe i'm at 7L9 now with still over a 40% solo percentage. I'm not the best player by a long shot on this server, but I learned a long time ago that on this game you need to be able to adapt to the changing server for success.

I gain True Sight, 100% ip, and some decent passives (Mastery of Pain/Dodger/Toughness/Mastery of Arms for my hunter)
I lose MoS and PD (could replace PD with Avoidance of Pain but I dont really like it since its a timed RA).

You gain super powerful vanish (no timer for attacking a 2nd time after vanish) and dodger.
You lose Viper.

All in all I would say its a wash as far as who comes out ahead. See how quickly u drop players when instead of doing 120+ a tick in dmg you are doing around 50-65 dmg a tick on your poisons.

About minstrels SOSing, yeah, that's true. But it's once each 30 minutes. They can't wait 30 min to be always winning a single fight and then hide to wait for timers, right?
And the same is for purge, so if we mid with our mighty PAC healers manage to throw out an insta Mezz AOE and enemies purge (once each 30 mins).. well.. Ichor, or even better, aoe stun. Pbaoe, aoe, poof. Rinse and repeat.

STUNGARD will live again !

And finally many runies and sms will have a well deserved spot in rvr grps.

Fiordiluna wrote: About minstrels SOSing, yeah, that's true. But it's once each 30 minutes. They can't wait 30 min to be always winning a single fight and then hide to wait for timers, right?

thats what she said... i say wait 'till you realise how gay some people here are

awesome news.. i am quite excited for this.. even with all the other recent changes that hurt everyone getting old RA really does fit for this server.. im happy you are working on them again!

< Realy nice statement
many will cry an the other part will be happy but after all like taylor said im just happy to see something moving

what about SI?

holsten-knight wrote:

realac0 wrote:About rvr
Dark days are coming for mids ... shiny for albs ...
In general, all will be better and more intetesting ...

except for mids, as you already noticed

Good mids will rox anyway ...

... for all the others, they will need learn to play with less charging 3 det 5 tanks and more cloths on grp ... like albs and hibs ...

Too easy run full grp unstoppable tanks det5 charge 3 setups while having all support wearing chain and with access to ra's like bof and sos ... (w/out stuffs like bodyguard, grapple, speed wraps, more hp's from cl's etc etc)

Pbaoe box grp's ... (hibs ofc, hut mids too as the only realm with ae stun), purge on 30 minutes timers, no more det5 charge like now ...

Wow, Uthgard really need something new, i'am really happy about this.

Regarding the QQ for low rr's guys, as far as i remember, will be BY FAR better than now. There will be lot more chance to find a high rr grp with ra's down, and core ra's for rvr are lot faster to gain (need lot less rr)

Will see ...

I played the old realm ability system back ion the day....but It's been so long.

..anyone want to send a link or list out the old realm abilities so I can read up and relearn em again

Thanks

Torential

http://nixianplay.com/index.php?page=charbuilder

At the bottom where your RA's are. You should see [newRA] [oldRA],

Click [oldRA].

You might find some missing descriptions or abilities. Such as Bard's not having MoC (a 1.68 change).

http://web.archive.org/web/200406051014 ... abilities/

This has some more detailed information for certain old RAs.

This comes from about 2 months after 1.69 release