Good news. First step away from instances based community cleavage. Now item decay please!

giammy wrote:True.. Some people spent months on that item, including it in the template. Now i have to decide:
Remake the whole tp and trade my body neck for the gem (int??? Are you serious????)
Keep my nerfed one and passover

You really want to destroy the server?!?!?

i spent also months for that item... and pfff i dont care about it... you have the best bracer on uthgard and you complain... better sell it to a NPC and stop moaning here.
and btw if you have the "gem" aka tear of tajendi you should be happy even more, since its not dropable anymore and the best gem on uthgard aswell

I feel a bit stupid, but I don't get the change..

So Bodyneck has lower Value on S/C Charge than it should have and there will be a NPC that changes that Value to the higher one?
Am I right there?

And the OTDs will be upgraded too?

Is this change only for the Value of the buff or for the item itself?


And if all of the above is right: Why do I see 4 pages of QQ about that wtf
You get something better than before and you cry about it?
Are you kind of like... stupid?

Finalement wrote:I feel a bit stupid, but I don't get the change..

So Bodyneck has lower Value on S/C Charge than it should have and there will be a NPC that changes that Value to the higher one?
Am I right there?

And the OTDs will be upgraded too?

Is this change only for the Value of the buff or for the item itself?


And if all of the above is right: Why do I see 4 pages of QQ about that wtf
You get something better than before and you cry about it?
Are you kind of like... stupid?

Bro - you should read better! Or smoke less of you know...

They QQ about no change for Akars/ Taj items! Nothin else!

still they qq about an item getting better, nothing is nerfed

So u can take Akars with 20 less points Str/Con but very high Utility, so u don´t have to change to charge.
Or u can take a crappy item with horrible stats (maybe except one class with special spec) that will have to change for the charge and get 20 more str/con.

I really don´t get why ppl behave as akars is only used for the charge

Chrissi wrote:

Finalement wrote:I feel a bit stupid, but I don't get the change..

So Bodyneck has lower Value on S/C Charge than it should have and there will be a NPC that changes that Value to the higher one?
Am I right there?

And the OTDs will be upgraded too?

Is this change only for the Value of the buff or for the item itself?


And if all of the above is right: Why do I see 4 pages of QQ about that wtf
You get something better than before and you cry about it?
Are you kind of like... stupid?

Bro - you should read better! Or smoke less of you know...

They QQ about no change for Akars/ Taj items! Nothin else!

Yep. They still QQ about nothing. As Pweet said: nothing got nerfed. So no reason to QQ about it^^

I even calculated a CHamp temp with Akars cause of the stats!
Frendir is right

I think I don't get what these buddies are trying to say. Maybe some one loves licking to the XXX staff?
Let me understand better:
A man joins kinda 40 legions raid for the necklace of the body.
That (stupid, in your sight) man include that item into his template.
1 Week ago the upcome news is :
Heya folks, remember when we nerfed that neckace charge? Well we messed up. Now it's back to 75 value stat BUT you can't have the same stats on that, aahhn and sorry it's not even a neckalce anymore, it's a gem. But you can still decide to keep yours.
Please connect brain before posting. nobody cares about your licking.

And also, i really don't get what is the goal of these changes.
I understand the removal of barrels, cause the rvr was too much artificial with those easy carryable amount of pots.
Mostly the solo war. Ok i get it, I respect your decision (I would love to have a complete classic server so i pass over the low pop and such things) and a big plause to the staff.
I can even understand the the actual server goal is slighty different of the age when tajendi 2 were uploaded. Cause it's nice and lovely ok, but it's too much custom for some reasons. Ok i get it.
But what about Legion? I think only nerds and 24/24 7/7 players (sorry but it's true) dont care about this upcome item change.
Core players just take it into the ass.
Sorry staff guys I will be always on your side but this time there is nonsence.

whoever included neck of the body in his template can still replace it with any random level 10 neck and just use the exchanged item for the charges as everyone else does... the stats are nothing to worry about

and what is this item change? The only thing that changes is the charge value (ok and amount of charges, but that is also no problem with recharge stones), and although i am against the charge value increase... it is at least livelike and a preparation for releasing SI it seems.
It doesn't matter if you switch a neck or a gem for the str/con charge... although i agree that it is a problem when you have an evern gem in temp and lose a lot of tp at switching... but that is really a personal and minor problem...

holsten-knight wrote:whoever included neck of the body in his template can still replace it with any random level 10 neck and just use the exchanged item for the charges as very one else does... the stats are nothing to worry about

and what is this item change? The only thing that changes is the charge value, and although i am against the charge value increase... it is at least livelike and a preparation for releasing SI it seems.

I have no clue about any necklace with those stats (i would apreciated if you can give me a hint)
The goal jumps every year, custom, classic, classic but some custom, no no revert to classic but with SI, bah.
You remember that poll about old ras? many people made toons or called friends to join for that. It was 2008-2009. Now after 4 years nothing happened (ok it's hard to code from zero all that, without certain infos and with this FULLY custom sistem of defence penetration), nothing is stated from GMs. I'M NOt TROLLING or QQing. I just want the best for uthgard. A well clear, ACTUAL, server manifesto would be really apreciated. Population is dropping every day you still see.

i don't know the exact stats of neck of the body and can't look at mine here at work... but they are like +15 str, +15 char, +15 acu or something like that... absolute crap and only good for the charge.

The charge value change is a step towards classic live like, pre TOA but with SI is the classic goal of the server as far as i know, and that did not change.

The old RA's are not totally out of discussion, but blue told us no one works at implementing them at the moment... that was just an information.
We all keep crying for information but as soon as we get some a lot of people start to QQ.
He could as well just say nothing and keep us thinking old RA's come soon. I prefere the truth, even if it is uncomfortable.

Some people QQ just to QQ that's how it looks to me ^^
I do it as well sometimes QQ =)

holsten-knight wrote:...

Hib Version.

15 Str
15 Con
15 Dex
15 Quick

Kinda impossible to switch to another without losing points. Know you might understand.

@Celteen
I'm not QQing, I hope you point to other people.

giammy wrote:And also, i really don't get what is the goal of these changes.

I could be wrong on this, and by all means GM's correct me if I'm wrong here, but the change was done for 2 main reasons that I can see.

The first was actually stated by Abydoas at the very beginning on this thread. When they implemented these Necklaces of the Body for Alb and Hib they decided to take the 75 value S/C for all 3 realms and lower it to make it "more in line" with the server settings. In other words they thought that 75 value charges devalued buff classes and made the charges too overpowered for a non buffbot server. Now, fast forward to where we are now with the development of SI. Abydos is hoping to have this implemented within the next year. He is looking at the items for SI and realises that the value of charges for these items are way above the 57 value they implemented on the Body Necklaces. So instead of having to go threw all 3 realms and all the drops with charges on them to customize them to put them in line with the server settings, they decided to just bump up the value of the Body Necklace/Ancient Femur/Cloak for Alb to the original values of 75.

Option 1- Keep Body Neck's for all realms the way they were and then have to customise every single SI drop to make it more in line with that.

Option 2- Bump up the value of Body Necks and replace them with more livelike verisions of items so the SI drops did not need customization and therefore save time for the GM's.

The other reason I think they did this was because some people in the community were upset that you could get items as good if not better then what the Dragon and Legion dropped in Tajendi 2. This requires less people (6 people for taj2 vs 20+ for Dragon/Legion) and could be farmed at all time. The GM's seen this and had been looking at ways to either phase out Taj2 items or put them more in line with server settings. By making this change, the most powerful Taj2 item that could sill be farmed (Akars Barrier) was now passively taken down a notch. Yes the item is still very good, but its no longer the best item in the game that can be farmed with 6 people. Now it is just a great bracer for utility, with a decent charge on it.

I hope that answers the question. As for the people that are upset about not getting a bumped up value of Akars is concerned, I would simply say be glad because this change might still allow you to be able to farm Tajendi 2 items in the future. Now the GM's will hopefully view Tajendi 2 items as being not quite so overpowered. Especially once SI gets implemented. At that point I could see Taj2 items taking a big backseat in being implemented in templates.