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Inside
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Postby Inside » Jan 26, 2014 18:06

Hum...Its seems to be a really good news!!

Uthgard is fall, but uthgard will stand up stronger !! Im sure some of us will come back when the revamp will be finish, Uthgard is a stable server, and we know uthgard can stand for long long year, not like all this ephemere server...

I hope, this new version will be wiheout any fail, bugs, with good change. I hope there will be no more IRC or such bad things like this, that was a part of sickness here, bunch of elitist player, spending all day long to QQ, give Xrealm information, rp farming etc ...

I hope its will be news day for Uthgard Soon! Dont give up, look back your mystake, and build a better future.

Good Luck

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Postby azargot » Jan 26, 2014 18:11

NOOOO so much wipe and work to up my ench near 9L since 5 years and mostly solo rofl rofl !!!! I don't care for a reboot i will do the same and you will ever have an elf in a three around to kill ,or...get killed :P ahahah Let's the Hasard got us ;)

Many respect to all ennemies and all friends and see you maybe later amigos !

Your Azargot

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Postby tarija » Jan 26, 2014 18:36

Nayru wrote:In the past there have been issues with incorrect drop rates which led to a high gap between the wealth of older and newer players. Some players were able to buy anything they wanted while others had to work for a long time to obtain the same wealth. In addition, non-classic DAoC items were introduced in the game which made drops from original bosses unwanted. This led to people farming in instanced regions in small groups instead of gathering as a realm to conquer enemies. Unfortunately these items were too strong for our envisioned classic setting. Since they were introduced, they couldn't simply be removed or adjusted later without significant impact to the players who worked to obtain them.

Not only the PvE is affected by Uthgard's history - the RvR is affected as well. The gap between old and new players became bigger and along with it, the attitude of a lot of players changed. While the server population grew, the RvR population didn't as much.



this has always been the main problem imho..
and I dont agree with ppl who says: ''in some years, it will be always the same'', cause if they start with no big bugs (droprates) or custom OP items, old players and new players will have always the same possibilities, and the same ingame adventures..
so even if I have my beloved zerk 9L+, I will be ok starting again from 1L.. I dont care about it cause RVR IS FUN, and it is the main goal of this game..
the problem who makes me think about coming back here or not is the ''exp''.. uthgard is a real pain when we speak about exp, and i know that ''this is not a easy mode game'', but I leveled like 20 chars to lvl 50 (to know them cause I was new in daoc), but now Im tired of it, so i dont think I will do it again, not even for a unic char..


btw, I think there are other many solution to these problems, and the total wipe is the last one.. I saw many good advices in these pages.. keep an eye on them if u really care about yours ''loyal players'' :roll:
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Postby Nordhammer » Jan 26, 2014 18:41

For the new Server please:

Only 1 Realm / Player
No exessive Exp Bonus in RvR Zones (That kills our Realm completly (Midgard)
No BG to 49 ^^ The Main Reason that stopped RvR
SI
BD
More Exp
More Gold
Shorter Porttime
It must be possible to Help Lowlevel Friends in Guild for example
Better Manaregeneration
Petliferegeneration
Timebased Buffs for the whole Group. Its horroble to buff every Tank with a Singlebuff all 10 Minutes and loose Half of Mana. After that Mana dont regg. ^^(Shaman-Dmgadd)
Give back Spiritmasters theyr Petlinebuffs. On this Line is nothing else for RvR. They only have theyr Pets.

I couldnt find Tínderboxes.

There was al lot of Things they fixed on Liveservers after SI.

etc. there was many good Points written by others

Please complete if you wish:

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Postby Plok » Jan 26, 2014 18:49

So all players with reskins are gonna keep these? oO
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Postby fabsfrigga » Jan 26, 2014 18:54

Nayru wrote:In the past there have been issues with incorrect drop rates which led to a high gap between the wealth of older and newer players. Some players were able to buy anything they wanted while others had to work for a long time to obtain the same wealth. In addition, non-classic DAoC items were introduced in the game which made drops from original bosses unwanted. This led to people farming in instanced regions in small groups instead of gathering as a realm to conquer enemies. Unfortunately these items were too strong for our envisioned classic setting. Since they were introduced, they couldn't simply be removed or adjusted later without significant impact to the players who worked to obtain them.

Not only the PvE is affected by Uthgard's history - the RvR is affected as well. The gap between old and new players became bigger and along with it, the attitude of a lot of players changed. While the server population grew, the RvR population didn't as much.


hahaha reading this is fun... i dont know how many times i said the way u were dealing with custom stuff was BAD!!!

You took out Taj, left taj items into game and gava the new players only a nerfed drop rate and then u say the problem is the gap YOU caused?!?!?!

Wanna know why people dont go out to frontiers? Because they reach 50 and dont have money to get temped, they cant farm most of the items they need and cant afford to buy them either... Its bad enough to go out and find people with high RR around, but go out without being temped is just a NO NO!!!

And yes, only reason i didnt go out (except for keep tasks with guild), i didnt even look for a RvR group not even once was: GUESSS!!!! Because i got to 50 faster than i was able to get my temp done even farming warshades before u decided to nerf drops there too...

You dont need to wipe the entire server to fix this... wipe the server is just the easier way of doing it...

And again u are making bad decisions imho...

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Postby Parthos » Jan 26, 2014 19:01

Plok wrote:So all players with reskins are gonna keep these? oO


It's called a full wipe for a reason.

I doubt uthalis will see it's way back onto the new server.

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Postby Foneb » Jan 26, 2014 19:05

im proud how many high guys are willing to accept a rr/item/money wipe while fighting a full wipe. this should prove to blue taht the *elitist* want to help the server to survive and prevent the death of the server by another bad decion. make this happen right blue and uthgard will come out stronger. but if you go dogmatic about it i fear this will be the end of the project
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Postby fabsfrigga » Jan 26, 2014 19:30

I can copy it here no problem...

God im gonna stop reading this forum cause its soooooooooo annoying right now... when will people understand?!?!?!

The QQ have been the same for almost 15 years!!!! It was the same on live and its the same here!!!

NEW PLAYERS AND CASUAL PLAYERS WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO COMPETE AS EQUALS WITH HARD CORE PLAYERS!!!

SOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP DREAMING!!!!

The only thing that can HELP is to make leveling and the low lvl RR experience enjoyable for them (as in bgs - something Uthgard staff went on OPPOSITE SIDE and ruinned the server for that imho), cause once they are out: They are screwed until they learn how to play their chars, until they can get temped and until they get some RVR experience!!!!!!!!!!!

Doesnt matter how much people QQ, this will always be like that!!! Some people are better than the others, some people have more time for playing than the others and some people just log on DAOC nowadays to play bgs, so what? Unless u can afford the time Bgs are the best most of people can do!!! So what?

Since when a initiate can beat a "master" with years of experience on anything? its ONE in thousands that can accomplish that... You wanna compete? Start today and in some years you will be better than the ones starting then...

The QQ here is the same ive heard for YEARS on DAOC and its just annoying... Server wipe will solve NOTHING unless some things change on Uthgard and those things staff said MANY times they will not change!!!

Hard core players are still going to lvl up fast, get RR fast and be "elite" while casual players and eternal noobs will keep struggling on lvling and keep QQ on forums...

Full wipe will just make lots of good players to quit... and sadly the loyal ones...

I didnt change for almost 15 years of DAOC history, why do u think it will change now?

HWY IS SO HARD FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND IT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

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Postby rafagijon » Jan 26, 2014 19:36

ok, delete all who we win in this 8 years.... what happed in future when fews ppl get rank 10? other restart and lose all? oh great server! ****** all ppl only cos few one get ranks 10. This is patetic and uthgard will lose alot ppl, I can not rely on a server that will delete all of them when they want without listening to the community.


wipe chars, bye uthgard.

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Postby mordret » Jan 26, 2014 19:59

Wow, didn't expect the end.. well thanks a lot for all your work; Uthgard had been the DAoC server I played longest even compared to Live... Thanks a lot and hope to see Uthgard up again soon!

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Postby Hargor » Jan 26, 2014 20:10

This is why a reset really doesnt matter. The people we term as Elitists got to where they are cause they play the game, they grind. How long do you think it will take them to seperate themselves from the newer and more casual player? Answer not long, so you will be hearing the same complaints inless than a year unless no one comes back. Instead of a wipe fix the crap that is F'ed up.

New Frontiers- it opens up the RvR way more area to RvR, Exp, and avoid "elitists" and IMO this is huge, this is what made live so much fun
SI - new content so peeps can turn themselves from QQing about same old stuff
Non DAoC items - ok huge back fire on adding items just get rid of them
(just a couple exp, im not goin to rant)

This game is no different than any other online game if you started late you will be behind .

Last point, High RR is the biggest non player factor, reset set that and you level the playing field greatly and that way dont SIGN YOUR OWN DEATH CERTIFICATE


Hargor

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Postby relvinian » Jan 26, 2014 20:55

Well there are certainly a couple of kicks in the teeth to new players while they are down:
1. rps for grays.
2. No rps when dead.
3. Removal of items
4. decrease of drop rates.


If there is a new server they can help new and lower skill toons by giving
1. 2x rps until rr 6.
2. 2x xp all the time
3. remove the stupid xp cap so that you can pl ur buddy if u invite them to server.
4. rps when dead
5. No rps for greys
6. xp off, rp off

So sure, the hardcore l337 will always kick ass but it would help if we don't kick them when they down or let them compete more.

And by now we should have the ingame experience to understand how these things work.

I also personally think having a reason to rvr would be good-- so good drops or items in the rvr dungeons would be interesting.
https://www.uthgard.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=37632

Players can greatly contribute to a server if you let them.

Uthgard, still the best server. Thanks, Devs.

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Postby Xfreakish » Jan 26, 2014 20:56

RR 1 flump, will hit like a mosquito :D
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Postby ZerGlinG » Jan 26, 2014 20:58

pweet wrote:Wipe it once, wipe it right. :D :D :D


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