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Barlox
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Postby Barlox » Jan 26, 2014 01:57

And dont add anything that makes player lives more easy. Custom changes are only allowed when they make it harder for everyone :rolleyes:

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Postby spamsurfer » Jan 26, 2014 01:57

I have a few constructive suggestions; I've already posted my opinion of the server wipe so I will not reiterate that here.

If having a lot of realm abilities makes certain characters, or groups of characters, too powerful, adjust the realm abilities to not be overpowering or introduce handicaps for lower ranks.

If certain players are too powerful because they have too much money or items that other characters cannot easily obtain, make the items easier to obtain. That doesn't mean roll out the traveling merchants; it means make all items obtainable with a decent group at a 100% drop rate. If there is so much old money out that the economy still can't sort itself out, tax it out of existence.

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Isavyr
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Postby Isavyr » Jan 26, 2014 02:02

Austerim wrote:At least you guys shot yourselves in the head instead of the foot this time!


This is most succinct post in this thread. It deserves to be quoted and read again.

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Postby Icybo » Jan 26, 2014 02:54

First a big thank you to UthStaff. You have really done a great job (you should never forget that the GM's get nothing for it, except a lot of work). I'll probably, if the accounts are deleted, no longer level up new chars. I currently do not catch on Hib any crafter Legendary and got nerve everything afresh.

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Hedra
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Postby Hedra » Jan 26, 2014 03:11

How could anyone want to restart from scratch on a daoc server with a normal xp rate... in 2014 ? Man I'd rather shoot myself than go again through 1 month of awful pve mob grinding, then grinding money for the most boring craft system in mmo history. So unbelievable for me :D

Anyway nice to offer a "fresh" start to "newcomers", too bad you will lose a lot of your old players (you know, players that actually played rvr instead of "qq i reach 50 and i suck at rvr so i make another BG char/leave the server/ask for a wipe on forums").
Cause you know, even after a wipe, any group of 8 very good players will pull ahead of the pugs into rvr and even at rr2 they will still stomp all the people who are rr2 AND bad ^^ and then the story repeats, after 2 months of active rvr it will be "qq high rr guild pls wipe"

This looks so much like a panic move. But I can't feel sad of Uth's situation honestly, it stayed nicely populated for years because it had no reliable freeshard alternative for daoc players, but you had this coming. Even though I was surprised to see such numbers on origins.
Well at least you will bring back players who will get bored of origins bugs. Time will tell is they stay on uth.

Calling a fail ^^ But good luck anyway ! I had my whole bunch of fun in here thanks to the staff !
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Postby bran3357 » Jan 26, 2014 03:24

one word for future uthgard-FAIL-. Not a smart choice you will loose everyone who has spent years on certain skills!.

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Postby svperstar » Jan 26, 2014 03:47

Been said before but something to think about.

1)Reset realm rank on all 50s to 1l0.

2)Take ALL times

3)Take ALL money

4)Give 50s epic armor

5)Give 50s 100g.

6)Make sure all ridiculous OP items are gone

7)Remove 75 s/c and 75 d/q charges from ALL 3 realms so nobody NEEDs these to solo and make it so they do not drop. 75 s/c is the soloers "artifact" here.

8 )My guild has every crafter LGM, it would be a shame to have to level those again. Leave trade skills intact

9)Reduce xp to get 50 by 50-75%
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There will be a group of people out there who will want this realm to be entirely Mythic-like. Exactly like vanilla, drop rates/xp rates, basically everything and you will not be able to please them unless it is exactly like vanilla.

These people have their nostalgia goggles on so tight it's cutting off the bloodflow to their brain and they believe that vanilla was perfect and nothing was wrong with it.


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Postby Equade » Jan 26, 2014 03:47

So sorry to see all the negativity here. And especially sorry to see all the ultimatums - I will miss you all dearly.

If an Uthgard revamp entails a full server whipe and the community gets broken (which will evidently happen, I think that is one thing we can all agree by the vast ammount of furious forum posts here), I really hope that it stands strong enough to rise again and create a new community. Not only does the server need a time-out, but I think that the community might be in need of one as well.

I myself took a time-out around six months ago when the rolling snowball of fixes began, which frustrated me to the point of leaving, but with a promise to come back once things were stabilized. I did recently, but the lack of players brought me to stand around waiting for people in Kaldrheim in order to try to get to rr3 before dinging 50. I was going to do it. And I had intended for yet another solo character (all my characters are solo characters). The problem is the lack of players.

I have previously raged and called for a server whipe because nine years (or how long is it?) of continuous fluctuations of different settings and dispositions of availability of abilities, zones and items have led things askew. I have spent a lot of time getting to the point where I am, and I for one am looking forward to starting over.

I am just very, very sorry that a lot of you guys do not feel the same way, as I certainly have enjoyed 'the ride' with the lot of you. Even Austerim ;o~

As for the GM's perspective I reckon that they are on the brink of quitting this whole affair. I know I would. You have miles more patience than I would ever have, and I salute you for it. It's on you now, and the next official response will make or break a lot of things.
It's on your hands now, and it is make or break. If you have a player council of any kind other than the sporadic on forums, I would love to sit down and have a chat some time. I do believe I have accumulated some seniority here.

One last thing though. If you DO continue Uthgard, I will be here, and I will do my best to provide the amount of players that the others threaten to disrupt :-)

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Postby CaptnIglo » Jan 26, 2014 03:54

svperstar wrote:4)Give 50s epic armor

5)Give 50s 100g.

Start all over with an arbitrary advantage for old players over new players? :?

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Postby Dulcy » Jan 26, 2014 04:02

OMG. The reason why there are less players isn't just origins, the players just waited for something where game designers respect the community and not just following their own ideas. You just give a ****** about the community, thats the reason. Just planning the server like you want to design it. I stopped because of that reason and left my chars as sleeping beauties. There were so many suggestions about solving the problems here and the only things we get back is, this is not livelike bla -.- . Make polls about designing the new server, maps, rvr zones. Show your community that you are interested in working together then maybe one day you get back the old numbers. And with this step you will take the players will loose everything, what you will do to get them back? All these people made your server, the loyality gets kicked in the back....

Thank you for the good years and good luck .

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Postby svperstar » Jan 26, 2014 04:06

CaptnIglo wrote:
svperstar wrote:4)Give 50s epic armor

5)Give 50s 100g.

Start all over with an arbitrary advantage for old players over new players? :?


100g from 200+ plat and epic armor which is free is no advantage really.
There will be a group of people out there who will want this realm to be entirely Mythic-like. Exactly like vanilla, drop rates/xp rates, basically everything and you will not be able to please them unless it is exactly like vanilla.

These people have their nostalgia goggles on so tight it's cutting off the bloodflow to their brain and they believe that vanilla was perfect and nothing was wrong with it.


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Postby Hibernianman1 » Jan 26, 2014 04:24

Goodbye my Uthgard friends!! Was so much fun playing with you. I am sorry for cursing at you staff but I was only trying to save the server. It's your server to kill as you wish. Best of luck to everyone in their future endeavors. R.I.P. Uthgard, 1/27/2013

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CaptnIglo
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Postby CaptnIglo » Jan 26, 2014 04:30

svperstar wrote:
CaptnIglo wrote:
svperstar wrote:4)Give 50s epic armor

5)Give 50s 100g.

Start all over with an arbitrary advantage for old players over new players? :?


100g from 200+ plat and epic armor which is free is no advantage really.

I honestly don't understand why anyone would ask for an advantage whatsoever for players who already have the advantage of already being lvl 50 compared to new players. If at all I'd rather give the latter an advantage, some kind of starter pack to get them going.

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Postby DarkRef » Jan 26, 2014 04:46

Characters are priceless.

The best thing to do here is to do a mini wipe. Kill all gold, weapons, realm ranks. Fix as many bugs as possible.

Then give the players what they want. A fun place to play. You have to completely change your plan, wiping the server is neither necessary nor sufficient.

Most of the fun was had in new frontiers, in old emain and in agramon. Those were fun times. It was a nice place to play and the community was not terrible. Old frontiers...new map...it's welcome. 15 minute port timers are not welcome. nobody wanted that.

This time you will have to follow your players. If you do not, this place will burn to ashes. Ask them what to do. You can no longer make decisions by yourselves.

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Postby cadaliw » Jan 26, 2014 04:49

Nef Melody wrote:Please don't make us exp again, I share Harkons opinion. RR,Item,Money wipe. Free Epic for every lvl 50 char.


I share their opinion too + xp boost for the new chars for the newchars.

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