Trishin wrote:I see someone still doesn't get it.

Oh well, at least I tried taking this discussion to a higher level about game design instead of being about specifics.

Relvinian , it does do something FOR the community. I am sure you could see it if you wanted to.

Ok I am guessing you are talking about loyalty to your realm in a way. Hibs come in and kill some leveling mids...mids then respond in force and go out looking for those nasty hibs...which in turn brings hibs in as a response. I get all that.

This wasn't what I was trying to say. I am not saying I agree or disagree with grey ganking.

My point is this...

Make BG's give the same xp as frontiers. This way you get a LOT more players of equal level playing in the same BG. People will come to BG's to level...which in turn will bring conflict from the 3 realms which will create more RvR in the BG's. Remove the /rp off command so people have to level out and can't just farm other people. This is a win/win/win for everyone. We all get more action in the BG's. We all get to lvl at a fun rate AND get our RP's up as we level so when we hit the higher BG's or Frontiers we already have some points. It lets us know that while we are xping we are also in an environment where we have no right to complain if we get ganked as everyone is in a lvl range to fight back. You know that if your FG of Mids is farming whatever...if they get attacked they have a decent chance to retaliate and even win.

now if you are TRYING to get lowbies to goto the frontiers to XP so that you are encouraging grey ganking with the sole purpose of trying to get the realmmates of the gankees to retaliate and come out to RvR...I understand the idea...but I think its a rather sad way to encourage RvR.

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Quik wrote:My point is this...

Make BG's give the same xp as frontiers. This way you get a LOT more players of equal level playing in the same BG. People will come to BG's to level...which in turn will bring conflict from the 3 realms which will create more RvR in the BG's. Remove the /rp off command so people have to level out and can't just farm other people. This is a win/win/win for everyone. We all get more action in the BG's. We all get to lvl at a fun rate AND get our RP's up as we level so when we hit the higher BG's or Frontiers we already have some points. It lets us know that while we are xping we are also in an environment where we have no right to complain if we get ganked as everyone is in a lvl range to fight back. You know that if your FG of Mids is farming whatever...if they get attacked they have a decent chance to retaliate and even win.

now if you are TRYING to get lowbies to goto the frontiers to XP so that you are encouraging grey ganking with the sole purpose of trying to get the realmmates of the gankees to retaliate and come out to RvR...I understand the idea...but I think its a rather sad way to encourage RvR.

Exactly why I want to see something like this

jecs110 wrote:Darkness Falls xp - 125%
yer big boyz earned it for the realm. if u get killed here ur either worth rp or the other realms think uve had yer share of bonus xp and its their realms turn

Battleground xp - 110%
good xp with risk of getting into fights. all is fair game here, something I like about bgs. u can either retaliate or xp somewhere else. most groups retaliate and it escalates to a keep take

Frontiers xp - 105%
if ur REALLY aching for extra xp u can come here. Better be careful, if ur worth rp or someone really doesn't want u to be +1 extra person to deal with in RvR, ur guna die

Realm xp - 100%
safe and efficient. 8 man groups are easy to build and maintain., theres always a demand for xp and loot.

in this xp bonus case i always prefered something like this:

a bonus that rotates through zones (every hour or day or whatever) which are pvp areas.
there could be a awesome bonus for this zone to encourage EVERYONE to go there.

like:

200% xp
10% bps
10% gold
5% rps

there is a bonus for everyone, some will go to the zone for money, others for rps and even lvlers for the only bonus xp on the server.
we can force players into other rvr areas, so the main action will move through the frontiers and wake up dead zones.
i also hope that many casual gamers will use this bonus as reason for zergs, so that those major part of our community can come out to rvr again and dont fear the ´´setgroups´´ which could be out.

i´m sry if this is confusing, i am not able to understand my text on my own atm xD

then stop cutting your bird

ps : bgs shouldnt get a bonus in my opinion, but there was a rly nice mistake on uth1 where all 1-35 were able to go into braemar.

the mistake here was that there was no CAP for xp in pvp which resulted in extreme fast leveling, which i think could encourage people to play in the bgs, which they solve fast then and are faster ready for rvr.

but since blue wont implement a rotating bonus, i wasted 5 minutes of my life for 2 senseless posts! yay now i am depressed and go cut some birds

-l- Edgtho -l- wrote:in this xp bonus case i always prefered something like this:

a bonus that rotates through zones (every hour or day or whatever) which are pvp areas.
there could be a awesome bonus for this zone to encourage EVERYONE to go there.

like:

200% xp
10% bps
10% gold
5% rps

there is a bonus for everyone, some will go to the zone for money, others for rps and even lvlers for the only bonus xp on the server.
we can force players into other rvr areas, so the main action will move through the frontiers and wake up dead zones.
i also hope that many casual gamers will use this bonus as reason for zergs, so that those major part of our community can come out to rvr again and dont fear the ´´setgroups´´ which could be out.

i´m sry if this is confusing, i am not able to understand my text on my own atm xD

@ staff
Don ´t forget to add the bonus xp for dungeons, so ppl don ´t need to get to the frontiers to get extra experience...

"The experience bonus near frontier keeps now matches that of dungeons. " and When a frontier keep is claimed by your guild, with the guild and new frontier bonus, you will now get the highest experience bonus in the game when hunting around that keep.

source: http://camelotherald.wikia.com/wiki/Pat ... rsion_1.65

how about dnt add any bonus to any zone, i dnt remember any bonus xp on live.

bgs are not a place to live or reach rr cap before u move on, they are simply there for fun, u all know how to play, stop trying to pick and choose what gets implemented otw to patch goals

Skarz wrote:how about dnt add any bonus to any zone, i dnt remember any bonus xp on live.

bgs are not a place to live or reach rr cap before u move on, they are simply there for fun, u all know how to play, stop trying to pick and choose what gets implemented otw to patch goals

If you read my previous post correctly and read the 1.65 notes, you see bonuses were in with 1.65. I don ´t want them either, but If you implement them just make it right, or let it be imho.

a bonus or 2 i would not be suprised to find on live, but u mention 1 bonus on 1 zone and u see all the requests and ideas for zone bonus's throughout the game. im not digging at any one person, just throwing my thoughts out there like the rest of ya

Yeah forget bonuses, then we wont have any gray ganking problem and everything will be solved.

only place ganking greys should be viable is Df imo, and can have a very productive effect.

a stealther ganking greys will result in those greys broadcasting info on the enemy and requesting help which oftern brings worthy enemies to hunt u down.

a grp ganking greys and refusing to allow any past oftern results in a bigass fight providing u are not playing unsocialble hours for the same reason as a solo stealther, realm pride. the greys will broadcast info about enemys in df and the ball starts rolling.

DF ultimatly is an end game dungeon which also has benifits for the lower levels at a much greater risk than any other zone. soon as u decide to venture into DF the clock on ur death starts ticking.... grey or not.

as for the subject on greys = rps = titles........... who cares. if someone gets a title from only grey killing im sure 99% of the server is gonna be aware of it and no respect for earned titles will be given.

thats my thought on prior grey killing discussions

Does everyone get DF on launch or does it stay closed for everyone until someone takes a keep? Need to get my seal armor saan!

i hope its closed at start, this would be a nice event to open and defend df at the start

it also changes the economy of the realms dramatically

As much as I would like it open, I think it's best closed. It will be lots of fun to see who will get it first.