zomgwtfbbq wrote:I like the decision, to keep things interesting a complete reboot is necessary, similar to ladder resets in PoE or D3 for example.


I would not mind to have a complete wipe every 6 months or so, this will neglect the gap that will ALWAYS occur which is the main problem as the staff already saw.

There is absolutely no reason to start on Uthgard as new player when this gap exists with all those wealthy elitist players that have been here since the beginning.

This is the right thing to do, Uthgard Staff.

They don't win in RvR because of their money or rr, they win because they don't whine and do RvR .

All these people who are for char wipes sound like a bunch of poor people asking the government take the money from all the people who busted their balls and did real work to earn their money to the people that don't work but still want money, The "Entitlement" mentality, but in the case lets just take away every ones hard work, and give in to the lazy people who think they should be just as good as the elite players. So lets start Fresh, and make lazy babies happy for a few months.

OMG I still cant win in the BGs or RvR, WHY says the entitled lazy bad players. Oh yea the people that spend more time on the game and have better talent came back and have better templates more money are still playing.

Its the food chain called "Survival of the fittest" There is going to be losers and winners. There is usually more losers than winners in life, and its the same in this game.

1. There is a handful Elites who compete and will WIN in just any condition "I dont consider my self to be one"
2. There is twice as many good players who are on a dedicated team to farm and RvR and are pretty good players.
3. You have decent players who play a few years but are not competitive enough to make it in RvR.
4. Than the majority who get discouraged and quit and QQ because they cant make it and dont want to overcome that challenge and want to quit. Here are some tips for losers and complainers in the game and in Real LIFE.

A. Quit and complaining is not a solution, and does not help you or make you better.
B. If your losing, and have trouble with something, ask Veterans to assist, most people are are whiling to talk and offer advice, if one person is rude, then ask some one else. Ask lots of people, and spend the time to try it out.
C. If your not whiling to study, and work with a team and devote hours of your time daily to a Goal you will never leave the losing bracket in your life, job, game in EVERYTHING!
D. All of the successful people talked about how to improve, devoted time to be good, and never gave up. They saw the issue devoted time, and overcame.

Hope these tips help the "Entitled Lazy Losers in Life and in game" To motivate and offer basic help.

Regards
Grendle

PS. I can also recommend some self improvement books as well. Just sent message about how you need help, and I will tell you what book you need.

Crystalin wrote:

Raskal wrote:Can i name my horse Blue after the wipe or this will be still forbidden..? Heil Fuhrer!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4QGPWLY-EM

viewtopic.php?f=44&t=4297&p=37433&hilit=hitler#p37433

so..that's a NO?

zomgwtfbbq wrote:I would not mind to have a complete wipe every 6 months or so, this will neglect the gap that will ALWAYS occur which is the main problem as the staff already saw.

Really, So when people get ahead in the game they have to start over, because you failed, and you force your failure on every one that plays uthgard to make it easier for you? That is like people who work fast food wanting a raise of 150% but refuse to go to school and get better paying jobs, because it was not convenient.

Rayfs wrote:Finally a Char Wipe, I cant wait to level a new toon on Uthgard. Best Daoc PvE I ever played

You dont need a char wipe to enjoy the experience of leveling and only doing PVE on uthgard.

I think this is the correct path to take however there are a few things I think make Uthgard still UN pleasurable to players coming from live. The Cross realm has always made uthgard feel different from a classic server and this really was the turning point for origins. Origins is by no means a great server, they have many mistakes but their Idea's are golden and should be taken into consideration.

The 1 realm 1 account is just Gold, it brings back a sense of realm pride and really brings together the realms. I always hated the fact that someone who was a Hib nut could play alb then announce everything that was going on to hib Via loging back over. Sure you might say that they could use Forums, IRC, or TS.... but It was mostly in game. Make cross realm a ban offense. This would be a big step in the right direction because being able to Play every realm is custom and Needs to go. If this change is made many players from live maybe even more then now will come over. One realm one account, We will call it Uthgard Awakens!

Another issue is the current level rates, I don't want to be 50 in 2 days but I would like it to be faster then it is now. Classic leveling was slow and just outdated we are at 2014 and we need a boost in level to encourage new players. I think 1.5x maybe 2x what the normal xp rate would be a good start.

Increase drop rates! Another reason why uthgard was no desired by new players was the custom drop rates. People need to feel rewarded for going out and killing monsters. If I leveled now in uthgards current state from 1-50 I would be broke. The monsters bearly drop loot while going up through the levels and even endgame boss monsters have high chance of droping nothing. This isn't some Asian MMO where they want you to grind drops like crazy. With already having to grind to 50 then grind bosses and get nothing 80% of the time is just wrong.

Implement A new friendly higher cap leveling system where a player who is 5 can join someone 20 maybe 30 levels higher and still get great xp. It doesn't have to be Power leveling, but a larger gap for groups is far better. If your friends are 50 while you are 20 and they are farming why shouldn't you be able to join them and get awesome experience. Add a bonus for filling groups, encourage the community to play together! This was a great Idea from origins and should be taken into consideration(just don't allow zerg xp ).

Barrels should be re added to the alchemy list. This was one custom implementation that was great, the fact that you could stay in RvR zones having fun for hours without needing to restock on potions was just amazing. 1 charge or 100charge barrels it doesn't matter because people will still use potions, but the fact that you rvr more means more fun for all.

Old Ra's are a must for a patch level which does not allow TOA items.... end of discussion here.

Si and Si classes should be there and working as intended on release.

Battlegrounds wont matter at the start unless you make an incentive, personally I don't like them but they are essential for new players once the server has been launched for over 6months. Last thing we need is the same thing which is happening now.

Change the dam archers in keeps from shooting through wall, Jesus it's just retarded doesn't matter if it was on this patch level or not. It was obviously a bug and before that taking keeps was actually not so annoying for heals/casters. All this did was make taking keeps unbearable for those classes, and it just doesn't make sense. Give them proper LOS!!!

The Idea to start fresh was great and those that are against it really don't see the big picture. If you really support uthgard then you will understand this change. It really didn't matter what changes happen the population was not going to grow. The change needed to have a huge impact. With the implementation Of Old RA there needed to be a fresh start. Players had reached high realm rank through a broken new ra system on a classic server. Some players have items which new player can not access giving them certain advantages. The old methods which allowed players to get high RR don't exist anymore.

The main focus should be RvR. Lets make this a server where people want to join because rvr is appealing. Now don't misunderstand me I do not want easy realm points like how I want easier leveling. I'm sure others have good idea's but I don't want any RP boosts. With other changes the increased population is what will make rvr fun in the end and anything to keep players in the frontier is always a good thing.

Everyone deserves a second chance and Uthgard is no different. However things need to change in the staff, respecting and player input should be something the staff should start taking into consideration. They should never tell a player no matter how annoying on the forums to leave. With a fresh start lets have a fresh mindset.

These are just some idea's I feel would make the server fun in a casual, and elitist point of view.

Grendle wrote: ..That is like people who work fast food wanting a raise of 150% but refuse to go to school and get better paying jobs...

Gone on vacation for a little bit and everything on this server falls to bits. I‘ll try to keep it brief tho…

Many people, knowledgable people, have debated the merrits of Uthgard‘s development and the staffs‘ attitutde towards the communiy at great length over the years - yet to very little effect. I am not at all surprised that Origins has found such a positive response, because they made good on a promise that was given to this community a long time ago. But instead of working towards fullfulling it, Uthgards‘ staff has limited themselves to game play downgrades. And let‘s face it – even if these were meant to drive the classic goal forward, you have to throw in a bone as well, or you will alienate the players. Which is what has happened. They only reason why Blue et al. got away with their poor community interaction and somewhat misguided efforts was because they had no competetion. People said so, and they were ignored. And now we know that they were quite right.

Don’t get me wrong, despite a lot of differing opinions between the staff and myelf, I still enjoy this server – if only for the fact that it was so reliable and had a very interesting and diverse community. It is therefore with great disbelief that I was reading the announcement that all characters will be wiped. In doing so the staff is destryoing the one aspect that sets Uthgard apart from any other freeshard. People have come to trust Uthgard to be a ‚rock‘ – reliable and steady. And now look at what’s happening.

Is a full wipe the right way to go, the only way go go? I really don’t think so… Yes, old players have an advantage over new players; and some of these advantages may be explained by bugs and other balancing aspects that have since been changed. But they do not explain why people don’t participate in RvR. DAoC is a game that rewards skill and dedication; working together and working one one’s gameplay and skills. This is were people fail – the fact that this game has a hierarchy, a food chain if you will. But threre are ways to deal with that (using different zones for differents kinds of RvR, for example). Wiping the server will not change that, at all. All it will do ist o create the illusion of equality – but within a few months we will be back to the status quo. So instead of addressing the core issues of the server (too many time sinks, realm hoping, not making good on promised development, etc), the staff is heading towards a very serious, very destructive solution that may well kill Uthgard for good, or at the very least spits on the work that people have put into this server over many years (as in being part of it’s community and bringing it to life).

Good luck,
Lasastard

Grendle wrote:All these people who are for char wipes sound like a bunch of poor people asking the government take the money from all the people who busted their balls and did real work to earn their money to the people that don't work but still want money, The "Entitlement" mentality, but in the case lets just take away every ones hard work, and give in to the lazy people who think they should be just as good as the elite players. So lets start Fresh, and make lazy babies happy for a few months.

OMG I still cant win in the BGs or RvR, WHY says the entitled lazy bad players. Oh yea the people that spend more time on the game and have better talent came back and have better templates more money are still playing.

Its the food chain called "Survival of the fittest" There is going to be losers and winners. There is usually more losers than winners in life, and its the same in this game.

1. There is a handful Elites who compete and will WIN in just any condition "I dont consider my self to be one"
2. There is twice as many good players who are on a dedicated team to farm and RvR and are pretty good players.
3. You have decent players who play a few years but are not competitive enough to make it in RvR.
4. Than the majority who get discouraged and quit and QQ because they cant make it and dont want to overcome that challenge and want to quit. Here are some tips for losers and complainers in the game and in Real LIFE.

A. Quit and complaining is not a solution, and does not help you or make you better.
B. If your losing, and have trouble with something, ask Veterans to assist, most people are are whiling to talk and offer advice, if one person is rude, then ask some one else. Ask lots of people, and spend the time to try it out.
C. If your not whiling to study, and work with a team and devote hours of your time daily to a Goal you will never leave the losing bracket in your life, job, game in EVERYTHING!
D. All of the successful people talked about how to improve, devoted time to be good, and never gave up. They saw the issue devoted time, and overcame.

Hope these tips help the "Entitled Lazy Losers in Life and in game" To motivate and offer basic help.

Regards
Grendle

PS. I can also recommend some self improvement books as well. Just sent message about how you need help, and I will tell you what book you need.

Very well said, Grendle

I will be gentleman for now and say only thx and bb.

wtf 2nd post on page 15^^

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Osaris wrote:wtf 2nd post on page 15^^

WALL OF TEXT....... dont think someone red it XD

Staff:

Will we be able to follow your progress somehow?

well finally something that actually may change something about the situation .... having 3 mids grps 1 albs and 1 hib grp at peaks in rvr even before eden/origins made uthgards rvr quite boring even if you had a pool of ppl with wich you could compete with the high rr's (well some of us were quiet high in rr)
they only should take the chance and introduce something to encurage everyone to take a step into the frontiers and actually participate in rvr like some kind of boni when killing a keeplord the more enemys you have killed while raiding the keep (same for defense) or something like that so everyone actually WANTS to raid/def/go into the frontiers and do rvr

and all this crap ive read about reintroducing thid+rp off etc .... this will only lead to some kind of eden thing on uthgard everyone will stay in the bgs and somewhen even the high rr's will start to make toons for the bg's only because of the action there and what do you all who only went to thid think what happens when a guild like req/nw/prime/whatsoever goes with a grp there ? they will whipe the sh.it out of you guys because rr had an impact but not the "oh they are rr11 thats the only reason they killed us" effect

im looking forward to this IF they introduce the right fixes/changes(something to encurage rvr and maybe faster lvling)and add si+missing things like nec bd pets

djibouti wrote:Staff:

Will we be able to follow your progress somehow?

By taking the same drugs maybe..

any information on how long the server will be down ? days/weeks/months/years ?