Suax01 wrote:rofl. 1000+ peeps on Origins release and you wanna tell me they all played uthgard earlier? Many ppl. came back who did not play Daoc anymore- so where is he reason they joined a server like origins and not (RE)joined uthgard after months of inactivity?

Because they already played here and know that the staff give a ****** at player opinions?

allrigfht, 1000+ allready played here the last months before origins went live? I missed smthg?

A simple calculation:

~~600ppl. on Uth. pre origins launch.

Origins launch: 500 ppl left Uthgard.

1300 on Origins
-500 from Uthgard

~700-800 remaining.

Where did they come from? Spawned by a GM or what?

Suax01 wrote:oO allrigfht, 1000+ allready played here the last months before origins went live? I missed smthg?

Yes and why they leave the server

Ah yes right only for origins

Suax01 wrote:A simple calculation:

~~600ppl. on Uth. pre origins launch.

Origins launch: 500 ppl left Uthgard.

1300 on Origins
-500 from Uthgard

~700-800 remaining.

Where did they come from? Spawned by a GM or what?

When origins launch uthgard has still 500 players and before 600. But ofc we will see what happend after uthgard restart. And we will see what happend in 1 year... origins work for/with the player. And maybe for money^^ but Uthgard only for their own and a stupid dream.

Well its also the staffs fault... too be honest you often just respond and react like asholes. I play here since 2004 and the really most annoying thing all the time was the ignorance of the staff. No wonder your players are runnign away regular and now as another classic server appears you get panic. Oh wonder this was obvious.

You are still the mother of classic freeshards. Go listen to your players, dont be ignorant fools and listen to your players for which you are doing all of this.

Looking forward to your changes.

Thanks Uthgard Staff. I had a great time here.

All my Chars are gone but hey a server Wipe every 10 Years is pretty awesome for a Freeshard!

Very tough decision to do a revamp. But overall its the right and a very courageous decision.

Congrats!!!

Nayru wrote:
You can trust us that this is a once in a lifetime occurrence and its not easy for us. We know it is hard for all of you, our loyal players, and we feel with you!

4 lovely letters (and a kind smiley) for you: ha ha

lol look below how many players are interested on this post.. Uthgard is still at the center of the attention. Origins is just a new toy that players are trying because there are some feature wich players would retry from years like SI, Old Ras. But Comparing Uthgard to Origins is like comparing a Giant to an ant. The main issue on uthgard isn't the "disparity" between old and new players. The Main issues are just two: 1) the missing features (old ras, SI, some race's implementations) 2) the nerfs you made (xp off, no rps or few rps after death, recharge stones, cleansing stones, item removing, long time respawn for certain mobs like medina or midar, low droprate etc.).
My consideration on what you should do:

1) Shutdown the server as you're doing
2) Fixing all is needed and implementing all is needed
3) Adding some nice customization wich doesn't affects too much the classic style (like recharge stones, cleansing stones, teleport inside frontier keeps etc.)
4) Unban all possible characters (giving another chance to everyone would bring back a lot of people wich MAYBE learnt the lesson xD)
5) Restart the server

From my point of view are two the strenght points of Uthgard: 1) the stability of the server (no lags, few bugs) 2) the characters we made in all these years. If you delete all the characters many players wouldn't change the server especially if Origins will in this period of uth inactivy improve their server solving bugs, and lag issues.
Before wiping all please state a democratic community poll and let players vote for the uth destiny. Remember that players are the biggest core in a server.
And one more thing, the most important one: change your mentality about "removing/nerfing" and open to "add and helping" players to join the game. Remember that everyone got irl matters: works, study, family etc. people log here to play and have fun not to work again.

Crystalin wrote:lol look below how many players are interested on this post.. Uthgard is still at the center of the attention. Origins is just a new toy that players are trying because there are some feature wich players would retry from years like SI, Old Ras. But Comparing Uthgard to Origins is like comparing a Giant to an ant. The main issue on uthgard isn't the "disparity" between old and new players. The Main issues are just two: 1) the missing features (old ras, SI, some race's implementations) 2) the nerfs you made (xp off, no rps or few rps after death, recharge stones, cleansing stones, item removing, long time respawn for certain mobs like medina or midar, low droprate etc.).
My consideration on what you should do:

1) Shutdown the server as you're doing
2) Fixing all is needed and implementing all is needed
3) Adding some nice customization wich doesn't affects too much the classic style (like recharge stones, cleansing stones etc)
4) Unban all possible characters (giving another chance to everyone would bring back a lot of people wich MAYBE learnt the lesson xD)
5) Restart the server

From my point of view are two the strenght points of Uthgard: 1) the stability of the server (no lags, few bugs) 2) the characters we made in all these years. If you delete all the characters many players wouldn't change the server especially if Origins will in this period of uth inactivy improve their server solving bugs, and lag issues.
Before wiping all please state a democratic community poll and let players vote for the uth destiny. Remember that players are the biggest core in a server.

They never never let decide player. Because they give a ****** about our opinions

I just want to add that looking at forum post, IRC and people who make /callgm it is hard to say a vote would go against wipe.

In fact it seems more are for a wipe than against at the moment.

Also please check the forum for the last year, we have had a lot of people asking for a wipe. Don't be so sure a vote would save your old characters, and please don't think this is a decision made without consideration of all players (both for and against a wipe). Because a lot of consideration has been put into this decision.

And once again, thank you for all your feedback

@Blue, Nayru .. and the whole Staff:

CONGRATULATIONS .. tight right decision. finally.

You can trust us that this is a once in a lifetime occurrence and its not easy for us. We know it is hard for all of you, our loyal players, and we feel with you!

I do.

I'll stop playing Origins and make a break until Uthgard is LIVE

It were good years, I wish you best of luck with the fixes!

Crystalin wrote:
1) Shutdown the server as you're doing
2.) Fixing all is needed and implementing all is needed
3.) Adding some nice customization wich doesn't affects too much the classic style (like recharge stones, cleansing stones etc)
4.) Unban all possible characters (giving another chance to everyone would bring back a lot of people wich MAYBE learnt the lesson xD
5.)RR Wipe to RR 4 or so
6.)Full Money Wipe
7.) Full Gear Wipe
8.) Remove Spellcrafting (That would be rly classic and unique,- but i doubt it will ever come on any Freeshard
9.) Restart the server

Added some things A good compromise imo.. Fresh start without months of grind up allrdy. existing chars, some RR for Basic Realmabilitys.

Trishin wrote:I just want to add that looking at forum post, IRC and people who make /callgm it is hard to say a vote would go against wipe.

In fact it seems more are for a wipe than against at the moment.

Also please check the forum for the last year, we have had a lot of people asking for a wipe. Don't be so sure a vote would save your old characters, and please don't think this is a decision made without consideration of all players (both for and against a wipe). Because a lot of consideration has been put into this decision.

And once again, thank you for all your feedback

No, you just panicked like cowards cause your population dropped . Also, you are trying to cure the symptoms but not the cause of the disease. You ignore players that asked for literally nothing but to be treated fair, while investing huge amounts of their time on Uthgard, and at the same time you yield to whiners that will leave the server as soon as they start getting farmed or a new game/server with more toys shows up.