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Postby Genjiro » Aug 06, 2018 13:14

Xalara wrote:This is pathetic. The only reason you are doing this is because you see that this other server is doing really well. If this wouldn't be the case, Uthgard's staff would have not moved a little finger. Your playerbase has demanded QoL changes for years and months, but you just flat out ignored them.

Thoughts, perspective and goals change over time.
I don't think there is a good or bad timing for this in general.
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Postby trebbettes » Aug 06, 2018 13:28

Some good stuff.

Not the changes I need to spin Uth back up again. This is probably a good thing as far as my wife / sleep patern is concerned.

I'll keep a weather eye on the forums over the next 6 months and see what direction you take with the future changes, hopefully something will come for me and my ilk and I will see you again in the future.

I wish you all the best success & really hope Uthgard prospers moving forward. Uth1 still holds the title of 'most fun gaming experience' in my memory and I will always be thankful to you guys for providing this server over the years.

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Postby Valfar » Aug 06, 2018 13:39

Xalara wrote:This is pathetic. The only reason you are doing this is because you see that this other server is doing really well. If this wouldn't be the case, Uthgard's staff would have not moved a little finger. Your playerbase has demanded QoL changes for years and months, but you just flat out ignored them.


I don't like most of the Uthgard staff, other than Blue and Rajnish and perhaps Gnome, I really couldn't care less about others. I've also insulted them in the past because I have no respect for their intelligence or integrity. That being said, this whole "omg player base wanted this and this and you've ignored it" is classic idiocy. Sure, there are some simple changes that we've badly needed since the time of Uthgard1 and while I can't understand how the staff didn't see it, I also see their point of view in being reluctant about these things because if you change one thing, who gets to say what else needs to be changed? For me it's common sense, but I can imagine someone who actually has to make these changes having a difficult choice.

Also, do you realize how much whining there is on the forum and that it's not easy to give out anything because morons always want more? Keep in mind that to the best of my knowledge, most of the people whining on the forum are really bad players who don't even want to learn the basics. They get insulted if you try to tell them how to buff and they're simply not cut out for DAOC because they log after 2 wipes and then cry for QOL stuff. QOL can always make a short term spike in population but long term it does nothing unless other things are addressed and if you don't have enough of players who aren't spoiled brats. It's a very loud minority that hardly contributes to anything and well as human history has shown many times, such minorities always caused problems. I know A LOT of players that were/are a stable group that doesn't whine about XP, some of them even hardcore RvR people who hate PvE and they still never complained, yet this minority does. In other words, nothing will ever be good enough for them and once they get bored of PvE content, rerolling their 77th char in the battlegrounds and all the QOL stuff, they will just quit.

As far as other servers being mentioned, I understand it's against the rules so I'll not mention any server by name. You're saying that the other server is "doing well". Now that may be true, but keep in mind it's just beta. Also, keep in mind that a certain other server did great in the past after Uthgard was wiped and then that server went to ******. Uthgard2 had massive population at one point, yet we are where we are now. So unless someone is doing well long term, I wouldn't call it that just yet. I will say that from what little I've been hearing about the "other server", it's already giving players way too much and it's basic human psychology that anything you acquire too easily gets boring really fast, so even there things will eventually come to who really wants to go out to RvR and die perhaps 10 times a night and slowly learn and who doesn't. I suspect it will be mostly the same people that have been around for the past 10 years with perhaps a small addition to the overall stable population of free shards by people who have been brought back to DAOC with Uthgard2 and "other servers" after many years, but that's a small part of the population.

Players need to be less spoiled and take DAOC for what it is. As much as I disagree with Uthgard staff on many things, they have been providing us with great entertainment for free for years and I actually support them in not granting the wishes of every single whining moron on the forum. I also believe that's part of the reason why we didn't get the basic QOL we needed, because there are so many requests and so much whining without any sound articulation and by people who fail to see even a fragment of the big picture. I remember back when Uthgard1 was wiped, a certain "other server" was promising many things and they've actually asked players for money to get more bandwidth and better server computer and it was still laggy and unplayable for the most part, due to ****** coding.

It's funny to see how most players say stuff like: "Oh yes, this server now has low population so I won't play there". Well my friend, the "Population" is not a mystical supernatural entity, you're a part of it. So if you want a server to stay stable, be a part of it and contribute. I disagree with a lot of policies here, but I'm still picking Uthgard as my poison and I'm not jumping on hype trains.
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Postby GreenP » Aug 06, 2018 13:41

Big alb love.
Considering to bring back the updated vw conflag style(patch 1.78) and moc for bards (1.68)? Wake up hibpeople on the player-council ^^ The moc-case should be crystal clear too... still wondering why i am the only hibplayer brining this up quite often ... none of the real bardplayers seem to bother. xD

And fixing "broken" RA of any realm ... static tempest, necro purge etc. ?
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Postby Valfar » Aug 06, 2018 13:48

GreenP wrote:Big alb love.
Considering to bring back the updated vw conflag style(patch 1.78) and moc for bards (1.68)? Wake up hibpeople on the player-council ^^ The moc-case should be crystal clear too... still wondering why i am the only hibplayer brining this up quite often ... none of the real bardplayers seem to bother. xD

And fixing "broken" RA of any realm ... static tempest, necro purge etc. ?


I think we can all agree that the player council is just commie nonsense anyway :D. Just need uthgard1 patch level and new RAs, that's all bro :D.
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Postby Spivo » Aug 06, 2018 14:00

Good changes, no friar love hurts, but the general alb love (AT hurt albion a lot) makes up for it I guess.
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Postby Gil » Aug 06, 2018 14:12

Valfar wrote:
GreenP wrote:Big alb love.
Considering to bring back the updated vw conflag style(patch 1.78) and moc for bards (1.68)? Wake up hibpeople on the player-council ^^ The moc-case should be crystal clear too... still wondering why i am the only hibplayer brining this up quite often ... none of the real bardplayers seem to bother. xD

And fixing "broken" RA of any realm ... static tempest, necro purge etc. ?


I think we can all agree that the player council is just commie nonsense anyway :D. Just need uthgard1 patch level and new RAs, that's all bro :D.
I'm pretty sure we won't ALL agree to that.
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Postby pweet » Aug 06, 2018 14:15

Good to see the server moving forward.
Keep it up!

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Postby Warjon » Aug 06, 2018 14:50

"We have removed the mana regeneration penalty under 50% while a player is sitting."

At least the people leveling their first characters got some very small help. SMH. As I thought these new changes are all focused on those that are already at end game. Well, keeping your loyal 250 players playing may work for starters. I guess.

xp off was the only other thing of interest to me. Might help if the lower BGs get active. Though I expect it will just be used at a catch up play for the last BG.

I rank these changes as a swing and a miss.

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Postby Trishin » Aug 06, 2018 14:59

Warjon wrote:"We have removed the mana regeneration penalty under 50% while a player is sitting."

At least the people leveling their first characters got some very small help. SMH. As I thought these new changes are all focused on those that are already at end game. Well, keeping your loyal 250 players playing may work for starters. I guess.

xp off was the only other thing of interest to me. Might help if the lower BGs get active. Though I expect it will just be used at a catch up play for the last BG.

I rank these changes as a swing and a miss.

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Postby Galandriel4 » Aug 06, 2018 15:02

det for skald plx???!?!?!?11

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Postby Banael » Aug 06, 2018 15:15

Thanks a bunch Staff and council
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Postby Wakanidoo » Aug 06, 2018 15:55

Laberintica wrote:...

Server stability: Have you all thought about moving the server location? Part of the reason many EST- US players can't play is due to the huge packet loss represented while trying to reach your server. Even with a GPN or VPN connection (There's many many posts about it under the support forum). Uthgard 1.0 reprsented no problem while connecting from US/EST.

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I play from Montreal (Canada, east time as EAST-US), my connection transits via US before join Europe, and I rarely get troubles in the connection. When I get lag, a Traceroute show that almost all the time the troubles come from US routers.

Before blaming the server, check your connection and/or your provider :-P
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Postby Severian » Aug 06, 2018 16:17

Genjiro wrote:
Xalara wrote:This is pathetic. The only reason you are doing this is because you see that this other server is doing really well. If this wouldn't be the case, Uthgard's staff would have not moved a little finger. Your playerbase has demanded QoL changes for years and months, but you just flat out ignored them.

Thoughts, perspective and goals change over time.
I don't think there is a good or bad timing for this in general.


There was a superb time to do these types of changes, spring 2017 before you lost all of the casuals.

These changes at this timing is just too transparently hypocritical. Why should anyone come back now?
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Postby Xalara » Aug 06, 2018 16:20

Genjiro wrote:
Xalara wrote:This is pathetic. The only reason you are doing this is because you see that this other server is doing really well. If this wouldn't be the case, Uthgard's staff would have not moved a little finger. Your playerbase has demanded QoL changes for years and months, but you just flat out ignored them.

Thoughts, perspective and goals change over time.
I don't think there is a good or bad timing for this in general.


Thoughts, perspective and goals changed for you because you saw that there was another DAoC freeshard that had meaningful QoL changes, which people prefered over Uthgard and left.

This is the only thing that made you implement these changes
, not because you've "suddenly" realized what people really wanted.

Don't take us for fools, the majority of people know why you are implementing these changes now and won't come back to your server.

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