remember 1 thing, i didnt make tajendi... arnooagi didnt make tajendi... the uthgard staff Designed/created Tajendi... the uthgard staff made tajendi items compete with some of the more valuable and usefull items already exsisting in DAoC.

it comes down to the age old rule..... what goes for 1 goes for the all.

if u dnt want to update all akars, WTF WHY THE HELL U UPDATING players alrdy owned necklace's of the body.

p.s i baught my 2nd akar's barrier last week, and i sold a necklace of the body 1 day before change's. warning on these patchs would be nice, not everything needs a ninja patch.... barrels was understandable to stop ppl stocking up

You onely talking about neck of body mid? or Alb and hib can change it for the new item str/con charge ?

Gm be clear .... please !

davidoof wrote:you just talked about a npc for body neck

whats with all other not tajendi items?

Tajendi items are not included.

Blue wrote:

davidoof wrote:you just talked about a npc for body neck

whats with all other not tajendi items?

Tajendi items are not included.

I believe he was asking about non-Tajendi items!

Fortyseven wrote:

Blue wrote:

davidoof wrote:you just talked about a npc for body neck

whats with all other not tajendi items?

Tajendi items are not included.

I believe he was asking about non-Tajendi items!

yes all other items, that arent from tajendi

topic was only a body neck npc

imho should only have buffs the classes that speced for them

Arnooagi12 wrote:What about those of us with items like Akars barrier, who have completed just as equally challenging quests and paid often higher prices for such an item, whom now face a huge loss and disadvantage?

May I suggest something?

The staffs goal is to eventually fade out tajendi items. How is anyones guess, considering items only get 100% and not 125-130% as on live, if you think about decay.

How about offering the option to trade an Akar's for a Necklace of the Body with red str/con buff?
You get ride of the high util taj item, while the person trading gets a red str/con buff.
Now it is entierly up to the person how much he values the red str/con buff.
Do he really want to trade in his high util bracer for only the charge or not.
You give them the option, so they can't really complain anymore.

The idea is good but I can tell you what is going to happen ^^
People farm Churiel like crazy and trade their Akars for a Body Neck, because it is easier to get Akars Barriere.

Celteen wrote:The idea is good but I can tell you what is going to happen ^^
People farm Churiel like crazy and trade their Akars for a Body Neck, because it is easier to get Akars Barriere.

No real difference from before then.

But you could tag any newly dropped Akar's, to make them untradable for such an exchange.

What about customized items from Summoner's Hall? For instance, Band of Eternity has a 55 value AF charge instead of endurance drain on Uthgard. Is there a chance to get the AF charge adjusted for this item? (In general, not neccessarily via the NPC)

Abydos wrote:CUT CUT

Great new, thanks for hearing players' point of view and for accepting our suggestions

Yes, unfortunately there will be people not sadisfied, beacause there are situations that cannot be corrected this way.
Think about those people that put a necklace of the body in their TP. If they were mids, no problem, they'll simply exchange
the old body with the new one and then wear it back. People from other realms will not be able to do that.
But the good point is that at least people will be able to decide what's best for them. How much is worth my TP? Should i modify it to include the new object or shall i simply stick with it, keeping my body neck and waiting to buy a new jewel or cloak for switching when in need of a buff?
And the other nice point is that new buffing items will not start from insane valuations because every existing body neck is virtually upgradable to the new corresponding item.
Yes, i do understand the disappointment of people owning a Akar's.
Liss suggestion about letting people trade Akars for new Legion's buffing drops could be a good idea! The only problem is that they should flag newly dropped Akars to be untradeable and this would create two different AKars: old ones, tradable for a legion s/c drop and new ones, objects that must be taken as they are. I'm sure the staff will or have already valued this opportunity.
In any case its value is gonna drop by quite a lot, but i'm sure it will stay high, cause its utility is always fantastic and, it might place itself halfway the price of new buffing item.
E.g.: new body neck is being sold for 50 plats? A new player not having 50P but wanting to self buff for soloing, might temporary buy an Akar's for 25/30 plats and always get a nice buff

So yes, not all situations will be addressed perfectly, but this way the changement will have a much lower profile on players lives.


PS: I don't wanna hear talking about accelerated decaying for TJ items, because i don't wanna hear about items decay at all. They day it will be introduced i will quit Uthgard

please STOP discussing about akars

i have one by myself. its hard to obtain blabla but i give a sh*t that it remain to the weak s/c value... why? easy, cause it is one of the best and high utlity items AND even it has 70% condition it still works cause there are no +skills on it. so dont bother about in this thread...

good idea to exchange custom bodynecks for newer livelike items.

but what about old d/q items... can't you just make again a database change like you did while reducing the delve?
pooka mantle, director rings.

and what about the craftable AF charges? so we need a new craftfix eh^^?

Arnooagi12 wrote:

Sturlek wrote:

Arnooagi12 wrote:What about those of us with items like Akars barrier, who have completed just as equally challenging quests and paid often higher prices for such an item, whom now face a huge loss and disadvantage?

I don't think just because you have had the best item in the game at some point means you should be guaranteed to have the best forever ^^

Did I say my Akars is the best item in the game? Is this a topic about the best item in the game? I didn't think so. Please start a thread about that elsewhere if you'd like.

It's not about having the best item in the game, but there does seem to be an attitude that just because you had the best str/con charge in the game at some point, or just because you put 'a lot' of of time or money into obtaining it, that you should for some reason be entitled to having the best str/con charge forever. That's complete fiction. The absolute value of your item has not changed one bit; only its relative value is changing. And you were never made a promise or guarantee that your items' relative values would be preserved. If you bought/farmed an akar's thinking it would always be the best str/con charge available, you did a diservice to yourself and you made an incorrect/unjustified assumption. The GM's should not have to adjust the game based on your false assumptions. Do you also expect all your weapons and armor to be given free upgrades if/when better SI equipment comes out, just because their relative value is decreased? If not then why do you expect a free upgrade for akar's?

Yes it sucks whenever new stuff comes out that's better than what you may have spent time/money on in the past, but you should always have that possibility in the back of your mind when you purchase or farm for anything. People with the old necklace of the body aren't receiving the free upgrade because the GM's think the relative value of their item should be preserved. They're supposedly receiving the upgrade because some of them specifically had the charge value on their necklaces downgraded in the past, and this is a reversal of that change. Ideally, only those who were actually affected by the downgrade in the past would be eligible to get the higher charge upgrade for free, but I don't know if the GM's have any way of telling who that is. So in principle it's an undoing of a previous downgrade rather than a free upgrade.

What about ppl who dont ve the OTDs anymore? Can they do the mob again to gain the new version, since they were pretty useless w/o the original buff and maybe some ppl destroyed it after years of uselessness.

cut cut, who cares about toajendi items, eventually they can remove the zone