Need to return the lords to moving to the attacker and healing if they roam to far.

I watched 2 grey thuergs take the lord without taking a scratch and I am sure any caster could do the same.


Please upgrade the Braem doors also please. The keep is being flip flopped at a crazy speed.

Also, why should Theurg pets be able to hit a door at full strength? Are they pets or spells? Summoned pets and players cannot hit at full strength and spells cannot be cast at doors at all. I don't see why you have let this go on for so long.

I am not sure this is the same as Live but this server was made to be better then live and fix all the errors they made like Toa. Please fix this to make keep seige fair.

i wonder how it is with sm and chanter pets... are their pets able to hit the doors?

cause my cabbie pet misses all the time

Theurg pets are normal pets but without control.

I don't see them as normal pets...they hit more then most people in braemar. Those skilled theurgists just spam few pets and enemy without support is dead. Not to mention air pets, making you unable to even come close to theurgists. Before pets die, you're dead. Don't wanna start any balancing thread, because it has no effect, I will not change anything, ever. Already tried, just wasted my time for typing.

Theurg pets are tested enough on live servers. They are no spells effects they are real mobs with increased stats. Everything is tested on live and damage is correct like it is. Same applys to stun proc rate.

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Just kidding sorry for offtop.

@Ranius
Your forgot the iceptes... Theurgpets are easy to kill, so it is fine for me.

I actually have two high level Pet casters and the pets hit doors for a quarter of what players do. I even have jugg ra and my ench pet does abot 20% more then a 50th BM. Theurg pets hit alot harder. so answer my question please. Is a theurg pet a a 'pet'? like sm,ench,caba,bonedancer or is it a spell like a dot or dd? Doesn't matter because neither are worth a crap on doors.

Instead of the simple answer of, this is how it is on live. please investigate the Theurg pets vs Keep doors and Keep lords.

Thank you.

There was no check on live how pets perform against keep doors. Its not needed because I doubt that this is a valid strategy on live.

Theurg Pets ARE pets and no DoT spells like you think. Some of them have strong damage bonus as they should have it exactly that way. Maybe you mix up damage with damage over time. 100 Damage per 5 seconds is the same as 50 per 2.5 seconds. Player often forget about that.

It seems that BG Lords DONT move . I got Aggro with pbaoe bomb,but i go back and Lord didnt follow me , also didnt attack my grp ,but stayed still with view-direction to me and after short time grpmember got Aggro and Lord hits him.

So it´s possible as a Caster to soloing Lords

P.S.: Hmm he didnt heal himself at 10%...so it´s really easy to kill Lords in BGs.

Blue wrote:There was no check on live how pets perform against keep doors. Its not needed because I doubt that this is a valid strategy on live.

Theurg Pets ARE pets and no DoT spells like you think. Some of them have strong damage bonus as they should have it exactly that way. Maybe you mix up damage with damage over time. 100 Damage per 5 seconds is the same as 50 per 2.5 seconds. Player often forget about that.

for a long time theurgs + archers was the best way to get down doors if you didn't have a ram blue

often I saw necros + theurgs banging down lvl 5+ towers in a matter of minutes due to the number of pets they could put on the door

its possible with two stealthers too.
with a nice PA series you can get the lord down in ~1 min

Denasti wrote:
Instead of the simple answer of, this is how it is on live. please investigate the Theurg pets vs Keep doors and Keep lords.

Thank you.

answer....pets of theurg (all kinds) does around 7 damage in breamar on the door (i tryed it with mine).
thats not more than a player does...thats it. nothing more to say here.

and...icepets does melee on the doors (if they are close enough)..if they are too far they want to cast but can not..

Players do around 7 to a door also with styles. Some like BM will do it a bit faster but its about the same. Ench/SM pet does around 2 or 3!

The deal is you have one pet doing about the saem as a player. Then you multiply that times the amount of pets you can cast? 7-9? Thats like one player commanding a whole group on a door.

So that is where this comes from. 2 theurgs on a door with pets is = to 2 fg.


Someone with pet classes please attack a door with your pet and use /chatlog command and post the findings over 20 seconds or so. That will show the damage and the time it took.


Thanks

Earth pets should be correct, they deal great dmg but hit slowly and die easly. On keep doors they do should hit a bit harder than a player (a player with bad equip ).
About pet spamming theurg you don't have to mind, I tested that with a rm you can solo earth theurg+cler 1 level higher than you