Bersi with s/c pot + str pot in the combat as image 1 shows

anyone able to enlarge the pics?cant see anything. and link goes to imageshack,not the pic.

Save it in your PC and use your best pic viewer, eniway I'm checking and quality is too low i'll edit at night sry

OMG please... Your af, item con, qua his weapon, your weapon, your stats, his stats, your ras, his ras...
I'm almost sure he was fullbuffed or you've got reallyyy crapy set cause 250 conflagration dmg with 3.5 spd scythe is impossible against mp item.

RA> charge-purge-Aug str II-LW I-Det IV
Item condition 99% both armor and weapons (99% quality weapons)(100% quality whole armor-studded)
Stats>check image
Resist>cap (check image)

Eniway i didn't tell nothing just wanted people opinion, i don't know if it's right or wrong the fact is everi vw I fight rush me really easy that's my sensation.

and..



lothei.

Ravager->Atrophy.... combo sucks.
Use doublefrost/comeback.
When comeback worked, activate Bersimode and stun the enemy with frosty gaze. Then go through him quickly, stick, make 1-2 snowsqualls -> icy brilliance -> aurora borealis -> Enemy should be dead.

Of course you should have maximum left axe and mainhand-skill, max strength and max quick. If you want to raise your damage even further, get a dmgadd charge in your template (for example medinas jewel of zon).
Problem is that doublefrost eats a lot of endu, so u might need Instant Endu Pots.
When having a celerity healer in group, use a slow offhand.

You dont need purge when you have DetIV and Charge as a Bersi, better get MoPain.

Whats the sense of the last 2 screens btw?

The damage of combo sux but you get 2 efects, hinder (interesting if u thinking in switch target or kite) and combat speed decrease, after this yes i usually do doublefrost (dry a hight amount of endu, not always is the best option ) and "try" comeback+stun+backstiles I think everione knows they are better. Eniway each combat is diferent, I don't think is so simple as you describe, maybe a "standart" duel.

I have dmg add, haste, debuffs, absorv in template, endu pots and already know the LA swing efects with weapon speed, this post is not for listening lessons but for coment the vw damage but thx eniway.

All RA that help to be not stopped like purge&charge are best option for me for a bersi plus cure poisons, disease, debuffs... with aug str instead of MoP you get more damage in everi hit, not random and in Vendo mode you control when u wan't to inflicts the criticals, but is question of taste isn't it?

The sense of that last pics is to watch the balance of damage done/received with vw, is the same combat.

hmm you got killed by a vw....is that the sense of this thread or did i miss something ?

i cant see anything on the first 2 screenies, link is wrong and the last 2 screens show nothing really interresting...so what is this all about ?

Apparently, it's a whine thread about how valewalkers do too much damage and recieve too little in return, ergo it's a whine thread that valewalkers are OPed.

VW got:
AF buff
Abosrb buff
And clothes are neutral to any kind of melee damage.

On the other side:
Studded mid weak vs slash (Scythes).

Now for an hybrid going up 345 dmg vs DDealer (buffed) the difference is indead pretty amazing.

Note for the troll called Flamingfury: An hybrid able to do 345 dmg in melee and as much with base spell (as well as a true caster) without any RA, yes it's somehow quite powerfull.

This said, i think instead of a whine, it's more a wondering (and i clearly understand it).

The best would have a reply from this VW in particular (his stuff, buff if any, RA etc).

Regards.

you guys forget, valewalkers havent <normally> Weaponskill multiplicator like other hybrids,
its between light and fulltanks if i remember right.

Pirith and you forgot that's 345 dmg is a 2nd chain hit? 1st hit is always detaunt so... pretty huge pure base dmg... but + def. So pls stop flaming, i'm sure if there is something wrong with vws gms will fix it (casted af?).

Who's flaming here? Certainly not Rapiz neither myself, for sure.
Flaming would be something like: Uho! Only 345 dmg by second style on an anytime combo, how sad.
You see? but fortunatly that's not my kind of things; particulary not flaming on other thread to make it close.

To get back on topic, we're still missing info from the VW called Moic (if i read correctly).

A valewalker who is able to nuke and have some other great advantages (root, AF...etc.), cloth wearer, shouldn't deal more damage in melee than a pure tank and receive less in my opinion, then who wanna play a pure tank? Maybe this is a clue why hib groups 90% "tanks" are Valewalkers.