Which one is it during EU and US PT?

EU Time: Depends every day. Sometimes it is only hibs, other day only albs, sometimes all three realms. I guess all you can say for sure: it is not midgard.

Atm its pretty even I think Hib is probably the most lacking however. Before they got relics they usually only had eternal fury + tkt barnabe running, even now with relics there's only 3-4 groups that build on the regular.

Mid has DG, 2 casuals pugs, blood pug, tilt on the weekends. They're not as overpopulated as before but still doing fine.

I'd say hib but come back to alb !

The following rant probably wont help answer the posters question, but I'm gonna write it anyway;

we (mid) also have the take every keep then log and leave them unclaimed crowd.
always great for pulling alb or hib zergs out..
they then fight them once, die, and all log, patting eachother on the back for another great PvE experience.
I mean wtf? doors don't even hit back ffs.

this results in the action being dominated by 32man alb or hib swarms, with no mids to fight them except for 8man.

I couldn't really say when this kind of ''''''action'''''' became prevalent, but if you find an 8man, its like finding rockin' horse sh^t.

that might not fall on too many sympathetic ears I know .. (8man Is for assholes, ****** uguys ur spoiling the fun for everyone else #siegebolt / frontier vindicator)

but when the BLUE zergers don't even want to fight the other teams, they just want 7 new keep takes in their title, and actively AVOID the enemy most of the time, the 8man's, who are roaming like [insert humorous metaphor attempt], are presented with the alb/hib response to a keep incursion.

Although sometimes hilarity ensues, and u land a nice ichor and can bomb the ****** out of those cosantoirs/myrmidons, this is rare. The rest of the time you are being chased by a force that outnumbers you 4 to 1..

'****** you go emain' i hear you yell.. meh.. go somewhere maybe..

I'm not sure what the remedy is, if people don't see a problem, but if the counter argument is that 'this is a REALM v REALM game, why are we seeing more RR3 Bane of Hibernia/Albion/Midgard with more keep takes than player kills..

'we just want a way to have some ra's for when we hit big boy rvr' april 2017.
well...
we are still waiting for these guys to come out.

shatton1987 wrote:T
'we just want a way to have some ra's for when we hit big boy rvr' april 2017.
well...
we are still waiting for these guys to come out.

Well, it's the same people who are leveling to "RvR", but dont want to xp in frontier because they get ganked.

"but when the BLUE zergers don't even want to fight the other teams, they just want 7 new keep takes in their title, and actively AVOID the enemy most of the time, the 8man's, who are roaming like [insert humorous metaphor attempt], are presented with the alb/hib response to a keep incursion."

The problem is your idiots are so starved for anything you ruin all the fun for anyone. See dodens action??! Send in your 8man to kill the 4-5 people fighting! See xp spam?!?! Send in your 8man to kill the 1-2 people. See a solo?!? run him down with 8! Wait why wont anyone come out and fight us? Well everyone is tired of garbage this server has allowed for so long.

No one really cares. You all will fight the same 2-3 groups over and over again until even those people quit because its just not fun anymore. When something new comes along and just takes population away guess what? They arent coming back because its not any better here. Until changes come into a 15+ year old game that the devs refuse to work with they will just slowly die and people will say meh good riddance.

shatton1987 wrote:The following rant probably wont help answer the posters question, but I'm gonna write it anyway;

we (mid) also have the take every keep then log and leave them unclaimed crowd.
always great for pulling alb or hib zergs out..
they then fight them once, die, and all log, patting eachother on the back for another great PvE experience.
I mean wtf? doors don't even hit back ffs.

this results in the action being dominated by 32man alb or hib swarms, with no mids to fight them except for 8man.
.

Has something to do with the timeframe.

Forming groups starts at 7:30 pm ( after work ), ride out at 8:00 pm, 2-2,5h rvr, and then it`s time to log and go to bed.

If you can`t handle the albs or hibs cause you deny grouping up with the other 8v8 groups....your problem. You just need to run together for 30mins, crush the hib/alb zerg 1-2 times and 50% of their players are gone. Too much effort, or?

Actually an interresting topic, about how and why the action is like it is atm.

From my point of view from my time on both mid and alb lately this is how i see it:

Mid EU bg rolls out around 20:00 CET usually in alb, they take keeps because there is nothing to fight for them in their primetime daily raids (would be easy for alb and hib to counter, its been going on for months now same time every day)

Mids eventually end up having no more keeps to take/ or depending on relic situation hit a relic keep. This is the key where albs go out in rvr, unorganized but in numbers. usally not even in a BG for relic defence. Kill off the midgard invaders, who then log because their 2hour raid is over and the relic attack is usually just a reason to call it and go out with a bang, instead of logging after +5 keep takes.

Albs then stand in a situation where they have numbers out, Romu might have logged in about this time. And there is plenty of keeps to take back in own frontier and then proceed to enemy lands. its a given and easy to build numbers doing this.

Side question but do Hib have any german alliance or eu timebased zerg? I know both Mid and Alb have.

From my observations this is how i think things go down, its not like the mids avoid action, they have been out daily for ages now showing when they are out to play. and then have ported back several times after encountering resistance.
Albs on the otherhand dont have leadership (online in this 2hour window where mids are out, atleast), often have sub 50s in their groups, lacking doublehealing in groups etc and its dishearting to roll out like that. Cant blame them for just wait comming out till its a relic attack. its annoying but a hard culture to fix.

So thats just my input to rascjords rant, I share the same frustration since the action is pretty much boiled down to we could have 2-4 hours of Blue sunday action every day if all 3 realms could and wanted to play ball in this window where the EU zergs are out.

wonshot wrote:
Side question but do Hib have any german alliance or eu timebased zerg? I know both Mid and Alb have.

No, there is no hib timebased zerg. The only hib zerg that gets out is the keepretake or relic def one. Other then that there is no hib zerg on regular basis. Its TKT 8 man, and sometimes Erernal Fury 8 man who sometimes avoid the big boys 8 man in emain and go alb/mid :/ And sometimes I have seen a semi regular hib small man to in alb, Golani, Curax/Saka, Wodkaii. THats about it more or less.

wonshot wrote:Actually an interresting topic, about how and why the action is like it is atm.

From my point of view from my time on both mid and alb lately this is how i see it:

Mid EU bg rolls out around 20:00 CET usually in alb, they take keeps because there is nothing to fight for them in their primetime daily raids (would be easy for alb and hib to counter, its been going on for months now same time every day)

Mids eventually end up having no more keeps to take/ or depending on relic situation hit a relic keep. This is the key where albs go out in rvr, unorganized but in numbers. usally not even in a BG for relic defence. Kill off the midgard invaders, who then log because their 2hour raid is over and the relic attack is usually just a reason to call it and go out with a bang, instead of logging after +5 keep takes.

Albs then stand in a situation where they have numbers out, Romu might have logged in about this time. And there is plenty of keeps to take back in own frontier and then proceed to enemy lands. its a given and easy to build numbers doing this.

Side question but do Hib have any german alliance or eu timebased zerg? I know both Mid and Alb have.

From my observations this is how i think things go down, its not like the mids avoid action, they have been out daily for ages now showing when they are out to play. and then have ported back several times after encountering resistance.
Albs on the otherhand dont have leadership (online in this 2hour window where mids are out, atleast), often have sub 50s in their groups, lacking doublehealing in groups etc and its dishearting to roll out like that. Cant blame them for just wait comming out till its a relic attack. its annoying but a hard culture to fix.

So thats just my input to rascjords rant, I share the same frustration since the action is pretty much boiled down to we could have 2-4 hours of Blue sunday action every day if all 3 realms could and wanted to play ball in this window where the EU zergs are out.

People like to talk alot of ******. Fact is, Hib has maybe 25% of the population at all times. The only reason we can hold on to relics are because of the weekend crews and animists.

We are attacked nightly by numbers that exceed the number of non anon 50's online.

(as of this message, there are 360 players online - 80 of those are hibs).

Skallman wrote:

wonshot wrote:
Side question but do Hib have any german alliance or eu timebased zerg? I know both Mid and Alb have.

No, there is no hib timebased zerg. The only hib zerg that gets out is the keepretake or relic def one. Other then that there is no hib zerg on regular basis. Its TKT 8 man, and sometimes Erernal Fury 8 man who sometimes avoid the big boys 8 man in emain and go alb/mid :/ And sometimes I have seen a semi regular hib small man to in alb, Golani, Curax/Saka, Wodkaii. THats about it more or less.

Who are the "big boy" 8mans?

Freudinio wrote:
We are attacked nightly by numbers that exceed the number of non anon 50's online.

(as of this message, there are 360 players online - 80 of those are hibs).

Thats fair enough. Just a shame noone from hib seem to embrace the against all odds playstyle and actually do something about it.

I've seen midgard do the "midgard way" wher they just melee down the door with raw hammer power, i've seen alb from the inside how they have numbers but very bad group setups.

You guys have the power relics now, but where are all the hibs enchanter, eld, animist keepdefenders. must be a wet dream for them to wipe zergs. or did those hibs go missing like the balls to pull off something amazing like that (taunting to make hibs come out to play, not a personal attack on anyone)

SlaterAC wrote:"
The problem is your idiots are so starved for anything you ruin all the fun for anyone. See dodens action??! Send in your 8man to kill the 4-5 people fighting! See xp spam?!?! Send in your 8man to kill the 1-2 people. See a solo?!? run him down with 8! Wait why wont anyone come out and fight us? Well everyone is tired of garbage this server has allowed for so long.

Not true
1-2-3fg in upland killing xpers? Sure we go clear it. A group of gankers in dodens? Sure, we will clean it, I will often broad in SF that it is clear. Please, enlighten me as to what action we are ruining other than ruining alb and hib greykill fun?
Or are u bothered that we are killing the alb Zerg in FS before they can get To Pennine ?

Garbage this server has allowed?

Please elaborate this point so I don’t make any incorrect assumptions as to what u think the ‘garbage’ is

There is still action about the keeps. I have a lot of fun almost every day