Don't complain about lack of groups out in NA if you're gonna do what you're doing. It's not the server, its you.

Give me a minute I can't hear you over the kids crying.

You do realize all of this nonsense started when you (Buds) jammed us on Saturday night after we killed 8 hibs and were killing 8 albs (Trained Again), right?

People in this game are so incredibly delusional and I don't understand why.

ithappens414 wrote:You do realize all of this nonsense started when you (Buds) jammed us on Saturday night after we killed 8 hibs and were killing 8 albs (Trained Again), right?

People in this game are so incredibly delusional and I don't understand why.

No, I actually don't realize that and don't remember that happening. If that ever happened - my apologies as a cleric who drives the group all the time. We generally try not to jam or vulture anything at all and I'm pretty sure everyone is well aware of that from our long standing history of non-aj policy. But this 16v8 stuff is not going to result in anything other than Buds leaving again.

You have to understand that RVR is different here since before you guys left. Night after night Mids are outnumbered massively (at MOST we have 3fg in RVR). So a lot of it has to do with the zergs that Alb/Hib put out. But you really can't complain, with the amount of adding you guys have been doing.

It was the fight where we saw trained die to hib and mids at the same time, so we hit.

That for the non-delusional Drah, justifies running 2gs the next 3 nights

What I think is the strategy changes based on how many buds play. They will fight us with 3-4. With 5-6 they run 2gs. With 8 (which no longer happens ) they dodge.

ntc wrote:It was the fight where we saw trained die to hib and mids at the same time, so we hit.

That for the non-delusional Drah, justifies running 2gs the next 3 nights

What I think is the strategy changes based on how many buds play. They will fight us with 3-4. With 5-6 they run 2gs. With 8 they dodge.

You're really missing the point, we aren't trying to jam. However, we do hang close to the one other mid grp just because of the constant zergs/Buds hitting us while fighting zergs (happened 2-3 times last night).

And also: Trained Again had jammed us while fighting hibs, then Buds jammed us while we were fighting Trained Again.

I really mean no disrespect or offense to anyone here and honestly - we never intentionally aj anything. If it's a zerg fight or a complicated situation - that's a different story and all blames are off at that point. Mistakes and misjudgement can happen, but blatant 16v8 over and over is not a mistake. My point was not to start a finger pointing competition, but to bring up the fact that if you intentionally continuously zerg an 8man that is respectful and just came back to shake off rust, chances are you're not gonna have that 8man around very quickly. I really hope that won't be the case as I also came back recently and was hoping to enjoy some 8v8.

You're really missing the point, we aren't trying to jam. However, we do hang close to the one other mid grp just because of the constant zergs/Buds hitting us while fighting zergs (happened 2-3 times last night).

yeah I did that for a month back in the day and got terrible action because all the team america/good men 8mans would just dodge us the entire night and run 16 to try and farm the wizard zergs or whatever when they hit keeps. asked norad about it one night and he said "we zerging to kill alb zerg, if you hit us one group will pull off." queue hitting them and no one pulls off.

people like realm points more than they care about "8v8" i think. I like realm points too and I'm tired of just watching them go out the window cuz you guys would rather zerg up and get the easy money while we sit with our thumbs up our asses instead of helping, so last night when no one would split up in hadrians i kept hitting instead of just watching u farm albs all night.

And just FYI, in our last "fight" tonight you guys gate humped and zerged down the albs that tried to get through while we waited on the apk side, then pushed through gate with 16 afterwards and no one pulled off, so I just called to SoS and log off.

I'm still trying to be respectful but tonight I got hit in the ass by tilt while fighting 16 hibs, then hit by some brown hib group after we pulled off when drastic's group hit them and died, only to get hit by them later on while fighting.

Cherry on top would be when we sos'd thru the shrooms to help u guys kill the 3fg hibs, then get dogpiled on by both mid groups after hibs were wiped. (why are hibs camping amg with 3fg anyway?)

Tonight was so clowny. So was last night. From what I've seen ppl aren't even trying to 8v8 they're just after rps. It's whatever. 8v8 etiquette always held on by a thread. And tbh it's really against the spirit of the game to sit there and watch u kill an alb zerg when you've got 16, and most of the time they have like 20-30 undergeared and underleveled with non-optimal setups. If you guys want to keep running 16 to farm em I don't know if I want to sit there and watch you do so, it's super lame and if you're not going to break up after doing so then what's the point of letting u fight em?

ithappens414 wrote:

ntc wrote:It was the fight where we saw trained die to hib and mids at the same time, so we hit.

That for the non-delusional Drah, justifies running 2gs the next 3 nights

What I think is the strategy changes based on how many buds play. They will fight us with 3-4. With 5-6 they run 2gs. With 8 they dodge.

You're really missing the point, we aren't trying to jam. However, we do hang close to the one other mid grp just because of the constant zergs/Buds hitting us while fighting zergs (happened 2-3 times last night).

And also: Trained Again had jammed us while fighting hibs, then Buds jammed us while we were fighting Trained Again.

Why would we care if TA jammed you vs Hibs? TA added on our fight tonight vs Hibs, we pulled off, and the Hibs killed them. Same as it has always been, even though nobody ever pulls off on us unless it's Hibs turning to kill Flump.

i see TA thrown around alot in here... and i dont remember any of these fights in question.. especially tonight. I didnt fight hibs once, so if TA was involved.. well it as a pug of like 4 of them maybe.
i DO know we were asked by Buds to help take down the mids that zerged them repeatedly.. we went in to help and as we went in versus the 16 mids (Tilt/Power Rangers pug?) at amg in emain Buds pulled off so we died 16v8. whatever all good.

We've been jammed and done dirty by every group out there. Get emoted to my dead corpse all the time, all good, thats the game. I will say I've seen a grand total of 1 mid group pull off and not hit us while we were in another fight in the last month so respect to those guys, because that was an amazingly fun 5 min fight versus romps and co. So as a mostly RR4 group now-- we appreciate when the r7 groups dont jam tons but we take what we can get.
I just enjoy a good fight. If we get jammed we usually will come back out. If we get jammed repeatedly well we might go somewhere else. Late night which is when alot of us play, theres not much out so we end up hitting keeps to get action going and inevitably get other albs following along for the free rps (free because we provide 99% of the siege and muscle carrying them). So if we zerg you down then, well we are just trying to create action. Trying to keep things going.

Cheers to whoever the alb group was that pulled off us South of Dakkon's tower tonight, don't know names because until the last week I hadn't seen an alb 8man in the two months I've been here. You guys are the realm mvps.

Mularos wrote:Cheers to whoever the alb group was that pulled off us South of Dakkon's tower tonight, don't know names because until the last week I hadn't seen an alb 8man in the two months I've been here. You guys are the realm mvps.

ur welcome

virulent- wrote:

Mularos wrote:Cheers to whoever the alb group was that pulled off us South of Dakkon's tower tonight, don't know names because until the last week I hadn't seen an alb 8man in the two months I've been here. You guys are the realm mvps.

ur welcome

dude are you for real YOU assjammed US fighting the brown hib group tonight and then died to them when we pulled off...

seanbud wrote:

virulent- wrote:

Mularos wrote:Cheers to whoever the alb group was that pulled off us South of Dakkon's tower tonight, don't know names because until the last week I hadn't seen an alb 8man in the two months I've been here. You guys are the realm mvps.

ur welcome

dude are you for real YOU assjammed US fighting the brown hib group tonight and then died to them when we pulled off...

yea cus our zerg group of 2 wizards, 1 paladin, 1 necro was looking for a fight against an 8man hib...

also, prior to this engage...30 hib zerg was in DC so we engaged these hibs first thinking it was part of the zerg that split off. pwncakes' group added/aj initially and then baited our zerg group into an 8man hib and left. gg tho