So, who is out nowadays in rvr, and playing active?

Mid got some high rr ppl out.
Flump rr10
Soxx rr8
Maramar rr8
Xia rr 8
Romps rr8
Badastro rr8
Abuskara rr7
Froy rr7
Zenai rr7
Mortred rr7

And loads rr 6'ish..

Alb got.
Pwncakes rr8
Charades rr7
Dve rr7
Drastic rr7
Ursula rr6
Gwyneth rr6

Ana some rr 5'ish..

Hib got.
Matou rr6
Ellefried rr6

And some rr 5'ish

Realm rank wise it looks like midgard has the upperhand, followed by alb and last hib.
How come all hibs between rr7-8 (and many rr6) gave up the realm?

Why nobody list my 46er necro? I am out too...

Am out aswell in 8mans sometimes... Look for the big angry badger

Oh and by the way some stats :

Realm RPs :

Mid - 588 Millions
Hib - 457 Millions
Alb - 414 Millions

Realm LWRP :

Mid - 11 Millions
Alb - 9,8 Millions (not that far)
Hib - 8,2 Millions

You can see more here : http://www.incguild.com/herald/player/top_rps

Don't know why me and Chara are on this list, haven't touched the game in months and only ran for like a week recently, may or may not stay.

Pwncakes wrote:Don't know why me and Chara are on this list, haven't touched the game in months and only ran for like a week recently, may or may not stay.

I put you both on the list couse you been activethe last 1-2 weeks. You and Chara have made over 310k rp's last week together. Thats alot, and I would say that for now it seems you are active

most of the good alb/hib players quit, and mid is just ezwin realm. this outcome is/was expected.

virulent- wrote:most of the good alb/hib players quit, and mid is just ezwin realm. this outcome is/was expected.

I have some amount of pity for the hibs, although with 20% power relic bonus I don't see why a caster group couldn't step up and do well. The guild Not Again and Tkt Barnabe ran tank groups with success, so Hib does have some options.

As for albs you guys have no excuse Having seen what dark dawn, prime, buds, woutever and a number of other guilds have done with the realm there's no reason to believe albs are lacking in 8v8. I think if any group can't hack it with sos + bof you need to reevaluate your setup or players in it.

isocleas2 wrote:

virulent- wrote:most of the good alb/hib players quit, and mid is just ezwin realm. this outcome is/was expected.

I have some amount of pity for the hibs, although with 20% power relic bonus I don't see why a caster group couldn't step up and do well. The guild Not Again and Tkt Barnabe ran tank groups with success, so Hib does have some options.

As for albs you guys have no excuse Having seen what dark dawn, prime, buds, woutever and a number of other guilds have done with the realm there's no reason to believe albs are lacking in 8v8. I think if any group can't hack it with sos + bof you need to reevaluate your setup or players in it.

obviously you're a mid, and upset, because you took offence to what i said...as well as the person who liked your post. truth hurts.

you're right, a caster alb or even hybrid group can dominate any mid group on paper. however, you are not taking into consideration in the lack of population on this server now compared to back then when dark dawn, prime, etc were running.

nowadays, its hard to find a single theurg, spirit/tri cab, minstrel, or even arms/merc to 8v8. seems to be a decent amount of sorcs and clerics, but that's it. when you do happen to find the right class comp, a caster alb group has little to no room for error going up against lets say... a mid tank group. it's easier to pug a mid 8v8 group than it is to pug a caster/hybrid alb group.

so, you're argument is invalid.

Next.

virulent- wrote:

isocleas2 wrote:

virulent- wrote:most of the good alb/hib players quit, and mid is just ezwin realm. this outcome is/was expected.

I have some amount of pity for the hibs, although with 20% power relic bonus I don't see why a caster group couldn't step up and do well. The guild Not Again and Tkt Barnabe ran tank groups with success, so Hib does have some options.

As for albs you guys have no excuse Having seen what dark dawn, prime, buds, woutever and a number of other guilds have done with the realm there's no reason to believe albs are lacking in 8v8. I think if any group can't hack it with sos + bof you need to reevaluate your setup or players in it.

obviously you're a mid, and upset, because you took offence to what i said...as well as the person who liked your post. truth hurts.

you're right, a caster alb or even hybrid group can dominate any mid group on paper. however, you are not taking into consideration in the lack of population on this server now compared to back then when dark dawn, prime, etc were running.

nowadays, its hard to find a single theurg, spirit/tri cab, minstrel, or even arms/merc to 8v8. seems to be a decent amount of sorcs and clerics, but that's it. when you do happen to find the right class comp, a caster alb group has little to no room for error going up against lets say... a mid tank group. it's easier to pug a mid 8v8 group than it is to pug a caster/hybrid alb group.

so, you're argument is invalid.

Next.

I'd tend to agree with this statement, albion 8v8 has very little room for error.

virulent- wrote:

isocleas2 wrote:

virulent- wrote:most of the good alb/hib players quit, and mid is just ezwin realm. this outcome is/was expected.

I have some amount of pity for the hibs, although with 20% power relic bonus I don't see why a caster group couldn't step up and do well. The guild Not Again and Tkt Barnabe ran tank groups with success, so Hib does have some options.

As for albs you guys have no excuse Having seen what dark dawn, prime, buds, woutever and a number of other guilds have done with the realm there's no reason to believe albs are lacking in 8v8. I think if any group can't hack it with sos + bof you need to reevaluate your setup or players in it.

obviously you're a mid, and upset, because you took offence to what i said...as well as the person who liked your post. truth hurts.

you're right, a caster alb or even hybrid group can dominate any mid group on paper. however, you are not taking into consideration in the lack of population on this server now compared to back then when dark dawn, prime, etc were running.

nowadays, its hard to find a single theurg, spirit/tri cab, minstrel, or even arms/merc to 8v8. seems to be a decent amount of sorcs and clerics, but that's it. when you do happen to find the right class comp, a caster alb group has little to no room for error going up against lets say... a mid tank group. it's easier to pug a mid 8v8 group than it is to pug a caster/hybrid alb group.

so, you're argument is invalid.

Next.

agree as well, very little room for error, and supporting your opinion by listing 3 hard core alb groups which basically ran with the same 8 or 9 people every single night is not valid. Mids can pick and choose any decent light tank to insert into an 8 man with very little impact on the overall strategy, which is basically assist or split assist.

Albs can't just swap in a decent caster, one because they need a specific of type of caster to be effective in most instances, and two, even if that caster is a good player, /assist is not the only factor to an alb 8-man strategy, its much more complex and relies much heavier on perfect communication, kiiting, and realm ability use or saving. Hib is a hybrid of the strats.

Point being, IMO an alb 8 man with a few PUGs may be 75% as good as the full 8. A mid 8 man with a few PUGs is pry 90% as good as the full 8, and hib is somewhere in between. This is why Alb struggles as a realm, you can easily identify the group is not as strong with pugs, which is frustrating. No offense to alb pug players, its just so much harder to be as successful as you know the full 8 can be. But the challenge is why I love Alb.

alb 8v8 is brutal hehe. even the oh-so-fragile hib caster grp is more forgiving than alb (caster) grp. except maybe if the alb grp has a good theurg who messes up the hib casters

ntco, you're basically repeating what i just said lol...thanks for adding to it i guess.

but yea, alb pug group vs mid pug group = no comparison = people play on mid for ezwin

If its so ezwin on Mid then where have all the groups gone? I see the mid 8v8 alliance field about 2 groups, a tank group maramar runs and a caster hybrid led by rafjord/irdnax/playful. Drachengarde and a couple other german alliance groups 8v8/zerg around but they feed as much as they kill. There are barely any competent mid 8v8 groups running so if it was so easy to steamroll groups as mid why don't we see more of them?

I get thats its tougher on Alb to build a group, but once your group is built you have far stronger RAs to compete 8v8. Nanana Batman, Realm Joint, Woutever, Buds, USSR, and the rest of the current 8v8 guilds i can't think of off the top of my head are doing fine when they make their pugs. I suggest you try grouping with them.

isocleas2 wrote:If its so ezwin on Mid then where have all the groups gone? I see the mid 8v8 alliance field about 2 groups, a tank group maramar runs and a caster hybrid led by rafjord/irdnax/playful. Drachengarde and a couple other german alliance groups 8v8/zerg around but they feed as much as they kill. There are barely any competent mid 8v8 groups running so if it was so easy to steamroll groups as mid why don't we see more of them?

I get thats its tougher on Alb to build a group, but once your group is built you have far stronger RAs to compete 8v8. Nanana Batman, Realm Joint, Woutever, Buds, USSR, and the rest of the current 8v8 guilds i can't think of off the top of my head are doing fine when they make their pugs. I suggest you try grouping with them.

nah, i rather stealth/solo/smallman on my minstrel or zerg/keep on my wizard than to feed rp's with nerdragers...

virulent- wrote:

isocleas2 wrote:If its so ezwin on Mid then where have all the groups gone? I see the mid 8v8 alliance field about 2 groups, a tank group maramar runs and a caster hybrid led by rafjord/irdnax/playful. Drachengarde and a couple other german alliance groups 8v8/zerg around but they feed as much as they kill. There are barely any competent mid 8v8 groups running so if it was so easy to steamroll groups as mid why don't we see more of them?

I get thats its tougher on Alb to build a group, but once your group is built you have far stronger RAs to compete 8v8. Nanana Batman, Realm Joint, Woutever, Buds, USSR, and the rest of the current 8v8 guilds i can't think of off the top of my head are doing fine when they make their pugs. I suggest you try grouping with them.

nah, i rather stealth/solo/smallman on my minstrel or zerg/keep on my wizard than to feed rp's with nerdragers...

Who's feeding? Most of those groups i listed are clobbering drachengarde + the german alliance groups and hold their own with the caster hybrid 8v8 group. The only group that cleans up is Maramar's high rr tank group but they lose their share as well.

Your defeatist attitude won't bring you many invites though.