Yeap ..thats mids for me .. since BG s if u kiled 1 solo they came 3..if u kiled em small man same numbers they came fg..and so on ..always came with more numbers because they CANT kill otherwise. Pathetic , i did play Mid previous Uthg server , and the people we had there in all 3 realms ..were above what we have now when it comes about : honor, fairness and ofc tactics and skill many guild grps running and avoiding to add another fight and so on ... take it as you want ..whine thread QQ i dont care but i dont like what i see .. gimps ..never liked em .

It is quite interesting how the "forum opinion" shifted from "Mids OP! Melee patch!" to "Mid so weak! Alb OP! Hib OP!"
I started to read something similar in other threads.

As we said in the beginning: Time will tell. Let players reach endgame and start RvRing.

MotaroReloaded wrote:Yeap ..thats mids for me .. since BG s if u kiled 1 solo they came 3..if u kiled em small man same numbers they came fg..and so on ..always came with more numbers because they CANT kill otherwise. Pathetic , i did play Mid previous Uthg server , and the people we had there in all 3 realms ..were above what we have now when it comes about : honor, fairness and ofc tactics and skill many guild grps running and avoiding to add another fight and so on ... take it as you want ..whine thread QQ i dont care but i dont like what i see .. gimps ..never liked em .

Sorry dude, but you're full of ******. Yes, towards the end of uthgard1(maybe last 2-3 years) most guild groups and even some pugs respected 8v8 and didn't add for the most part. However, there was plenty of zerging going on too and 95% of players would kill a solo or a duo with a fg if they needed a few players to finish the task. Yes, I agree with you that the game would be less frustrating if people would add or zerg less, but that's a fairy tale. The game allows any kind of play and frontiers are big enough for everyone. Sometimes you get some bad luck and get zerged and added a few times in the same run, it happens. I'm not a huge fan of all that, but it is what it is and I certainly won't lose any sleep over it. If you go out to do rvr, expect that not all people will share your mentality.

Also, server is still in its infancy so many players are grabbing rps any way they can and there are many players that didn't even play on uthgard1. One more reason for uthgard1 having less adders was the fact that many people knew each other and didn't want to ruin each other's fun(even if they played on different realms) and population was not nearly as high. Do you seriously expect that after a few months thousands of players know all 8v8 non-adding groups and names of fair solo players? Even if they did, the game allows them to zerg or add. It's not nice, but if someone chooses to, ****** happens. Plenty of great and fair 8v8 players from uthgard1 are constantly killing solos now and 3 years from now they'll pretend they're above that. That's why I love the guys from Drachengarde, they're generally nice people and they don't give a flying ****** about anything and if you ask them nicely, they won't add your fights.

Seriously, you cry worse than a 5 year old girl, be a man and grow a ****** pair or at least address some real problems, and not something that will never disappear in daoc and is part of the game like this "red is dead" thingie you're losing sleep over. Stop having some distorted dreams about how uthgard1 was full of butterflies, coconut trees and virgins sucking your dick while serving you cold drinks and go out and get some sunlight.

So let me get this str8 ..you agree with me but i m full of shiet?:)))) no its not fairry tale m8 .. its honor on the battle field which few know about it.. and as for the rps whores who kill anything ..even their own mamas maybe to get some rps..i really dont care:) i dont run after RR , any idiot playing 24/7 can reach rr11 in this game so rr really isnt showing/proving anything .

Genjiro you got it wrong m8, mids are unskiled thats all .. they have the 1500 range end on sham which alb hasnt , they have all elemental resists while albs lack heat cold matter most of the time cause no friar , they got more ppl inrealm cause USA kids like trolls thus relics belong to mids ..want me to continue? and still mids CANT ) ..just 5 sec ago fga kept fgm at AMG in emain and fighting throu doors til mids beeing lame ass ****** called 2 other fgm to come and finally push throu .))))) they r a fuking joke ! ) bwahahahaha



PS Got me girlie suking me dick why would i want virgins , they know nothing ..

MotaroReloaded wrote:So let me get this str8 ..you agree with me but i m full of shiet?:)))) no itsn ot fairry tale m8 .. its honor on the battle field which few know about it.. and as for the rps whores who kill anything ..eben their own mamas maybe toget some rp..i really dont care:) i dont run after RR , any idiot playing 24/7 can reach rr11 in this game so rr really isnt showing anything.

Genjiro you got it wrong m8, mids are unskiled thats all .. they have the 1500 range end on sham which alb hasnt, they have all elemental resists while albs lack heat cold matter most of the time , they got more ppl inrealm cause kids like trolls thus relics belong to mids ..want me to continue? and still mids CANT ) ..just 5 sec ago fga kept fgm at AMG in emain and fighting throu doors til mids beeing lame ass ****** called 2 other fgm to come and finally push throu .))))) they r a fuking joke ! ) bwahahahaha



PS Got me girlie suking me dick why would i want virgins , they know nothing ..

I never said RR is an accurate indicator of someone's skill, of course. And I get where you're coming from, but it's pointless to complain. We can definitely debate on many other things that would improve overall game balance or what not, but no matter the patch level or expansion or whatever, "red is dead" is essential part of daoc and it's definitely not gonna go away. Anyway, I'm glad you didn't get insulted by my comments, most people today are pussies, so good for you.

MotaroReloaded wrote:So let me get this str8 ..you agree with me but i m full of shiet?:)))) no itsn ot fairry tale m8 .. its honor on the battle field which few know about it.. and as for the rps whores who kill anything ..eben their own mamas maybe toget some rp..i really dont care:) i dont run after RR , any idiot playing 24/7 can reach rr11 in this game so rr really isnt showing anything.

Genjiro you got it wrong m8, mids are unskiled thats all .. they have the 1500 range end on sham which alb hasnt, they have all elemental resists while albs lack heat cold matter most of the time , they got more ppl inrealm cause kids like trolls thus relics belong to mids ..want me to continue? and still mids CANT ) ..just 5 sec ago fga kept fgm at AMG in emain and fighting throu doors til mids beeing lame ass ****** called 2 other fgm to come and finally push throu .))))) they r a fuking joke ! ) bwahahahaha



PS Got me girlie suking me dick why would i want virgins , they know nothing ..

I´m not a mid, but if so many mid fgs are so unskilled, do you think it´s a fair and honorful fight? We (Hib pug) had 2 incs against a well-played rr4-6 alb fgs, it was impossible just to kill 1 single player.

You won´t get 20-40 rr ups in a short time, you won´t get a big skill increase in a short time...so what can you do? Log off or get help. Do you like a challenge or a dead zone?

I don´t think they call them, we have just too many fgs out there and OF map design has a lot of bottlenecks like milegates. The most stupid thing you can do is to fight near milegates (including their teleport keeps). I really don´t know why so many fgs are crusing through those gates to the enemy tele keeps and are surprised about more than 1 fg inc.

Rent wrote:

MotaroReloaded wrote:So let me get this str8 ..you agree with me but i m full of shiet?:)))) no itsn ot fairry tale m8 .. its honor on the battle field which few know about it.. and as for the rps whores who kill anything ..eben their own mamas maybe toget some rp..i really dont care:) i dont run after RR , any idiot playing 24/7 can reach rr11 in this game so rr really isnt showing anything.

Genjiro you got it wrong m8, mids are unskiled thats all .. they have the 1500 range end on sham which alb hasnt, they have all elemental resists while albs lack heat cold matter most of the time , they got more ppl inrealm cause kids like trolls thus relics belong to mids ..want me to continue? and still mids CANT ) ..just 5 sec ago fga kept fgm at AMG in emain and fighting throu doors til mids beeing lame ass ****** called 2 other fgm to come and finally push throu .))))) they r a fuking joke ! ) bwahahahaha



PS Got me girlie suking me dick why would i want virgins , they know nothing ..

I´m not a mid, but if so many mid fgs are so unskilled, do you think it´s a fair and honorful fight? We (Hib pug) had 2 incs against a well-played rr4-6 alb fgs, it was impossible just to kill 1 single player.

You won´t get 20-40 rr ups in a short time, you won´t get a big skill increase in a short time...so what can you do? Log off or get help. Do you like a challenge or a dead zone?

I don´t think they call them, we have just too many fgs out there and OF map design has a lot of bottlenecks like milegates. The most stupid thing you can do is to fight near milegates (including their teleport keeps). I really don´t know why so many fgs are crusing through those gates to the enemy tele keeps and are surprised about more than 1 fg inc.

Because they are retarded ) they were doing it in BG s ..and they do it at lvl 50 , OF has loaaaaaaaads of space to roam ..loads..you can put 10 grps from each realm in it .. but dumb ppl roam in our back yard kiling soloers 1000 yards distance from their keeps..instead of roaming in fuking Briefine and after .. re tar ded . Anyway from today mid realm for me is CANT

Weird how I see the same Alb 5 man stealth zerg only hit solos and duos, yet for some reason Mids are the scared ones? Albs and Hibs do the same thing, so suck it up and quit crying about it.

Aaaawwwww poor you!
I guess you got killed in a rvr zone?
Want a cookie?

deee dooo deee dooo !


Did someone call the Wahhhmbulance ?

Genjiro wrote:It is quite interesting how the "forum opinion" shifted from "Mids OP! Melee patch!" to "Mid so weak! Alb OP! Hib OP!"
I started to read something similar in other threads.

As we said in the beginning: Time will tell. Let players reach endgame and start RvRing.

anyone who is remotely competent at this game knew in advance that this patch heavily favors albs/hibs due to old RA´s and caster grps in generelly beeing easier to play than tank groups. the ppl claiming otherwise are noobs that havent played the game for 10+ years and simply dont know what they are talking about. your messed up code for speed/amnesia and melee snares just makes it even worse for tank groups and on top of that 99% of ppl on mid havent even understood the concept of tank grps and play it like it was 2003. nothing of this came as a surprise however.

Use tactics!

XiaN^^ wrote:

Genjiro wrote:It is quite interesting how the "forum opinion" shifted from "Mids OP! Melee patch!" to "Mid so weak! Alb OP! Hib OP!"
I started to read something similar in other threads.

As we said in the beginning: Time will tell. Let players reach endgame and start RvRing.

anyone who is remotely competent at this game knew in advance that this patch heavily favors albs/hibs due to old RA´s and caster grps in generelly beeing easier to play than tank groups. the ppl claiming otherwise are noobs that havent played the game for 10+ years and simply dont know what they are talking about. your messed up code for speed/amnesia and melee snares just makes it even worse for tank groups and on top of that 99% of ppl on mid havent even understood the concept of tank grps and play it like it was 2003. nothing of this came as a surprise however.

I sincerely do not know what your talking about besides the first paragraphs.
Aside from class specifics there are indeed realm imbalances with SoS,BoF vs GP,BAoD vs Ichor,PR. It's a well known old RA issue.

But regarding your tank group statement and the speed/amnesia, melee snare stuff.
Could you be a bit more constructive and perhaps enlighten these 99% with information on this?

There are several people like myself that most likely have missed a ton of meta while being away for over 10 years...
What should we call our self? re-noobs, 2nd-noobs, noob-agains, meta-noobs?

Jokes aside, I would very much like a better understanding of the 2017 Uth 2.0 tank group concept and meta.

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XiaN^^ wrote:

Genjiro wrote:It is quite interesting how the "forum opinion" shifted from "Mids OP! Melee patch!" to "Mid so weak! Alb OP! Hib OP!"
I started to read something similar in other threads.

As we said in the beginning: Time will tell. Let players reach endgame and start RvRing.

anyone who is remotely competent at this game knew in advance that this patch heavily favors albs/hibs due to old RA´s and caster grps in generelly beeing easier to play than tank groups. the ppl claiming otherwise are noobs that havent played the game for 10+ years and simply dont know what they are talking about. your messed up code for speed/amnesia and melee snares just makes it even worse for tank groups and on top of that 99% of ppl on mid havent even understood the concept of tank grps and play it like it was 2003. nothing of this came as a surprise however.

this should be a big popup for everyone before trying to open the forums.

XiaN^^ wrote:...your messed up code for speed/amnesia and melee snares just makes it even worse for tank groups...

As always, if you think something is not working correctly please create a new issue or vote for an existing one.
Please also remember to add sources and tests when creating a new issue.

As for your claims I quickly checked the issue tracker and found:

Invalid claim for amnesia vs. speed https://www2.uthgard.net/tracker/issue/3748/
Speed chant problem for Theurgists vs. Minstrel https://www2.uthgard.net/tracker/issue/1711/
Charge vs. Speed problem https://www2.uthgard.net/tracker/issue/3852/
Amnesia vs. mobs aggro reset https://www2.uthgard.net/tracker/issue/2189/
Amnesia vs. Minstrel flute Mez Song https://www2.uthgard.net/tracker/issue/2063/

If I missed the issues you are describing please PM or post the links.
If not, please create an actual issue or stop spreading false accusations.

Thank you!