Long Wind vs. Tireless as tank

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Postby Falken » Dec 10, 2016 12:10

Opinions? I always forget which is garbage in old RAs, they both seem decent for 1 point, but then when mechanically understood its like, oh wait, that's a wasted point!
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Postby Trishin » Dec 10, 2016 12:26

You still have i50 and iRR5 so it should be easy to test for anyone interested ;)
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Postby Glelle-Instagard » Dec 10, 2016 12:41

Falken wrote:Opinions? I always forget which is garbage in old RAs, they both seem decent for 1 point, but then when mechanically understood its like, oh wait, that's a wasted point!



Long Wind is the Way to go, Tireless is kinda Useless, like 1% every 5 sec or so only !
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Postby zephy » Dec 10, 2016 12:42

As far as I remember, old tireless was garbage... There was some kind of discussion about it lately, maybe they'll help you.

In short: old RA / 1.65 tireless only leads to little higher ticks (I guess 1 point endu per rank of tireless) and isn't at all comparable to new RA tireless. Long wind on the other hand is strong as it was before ;)

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Postby Kha » Dec 10, 2016 12:53

Yeah Tireless was totally bugged at this patch.
Mythic admit and correct this few patch later (could be 1.67 ?) to make it the real tireless as it was plan to be.

Since staff focus only on 1.65, they don't care if mythic admitted it was a bug and corrected one or two patch later.

Btw to be precise, it's :

Tireless 1 (buggy one) = 1 full endo bar gain within 13 minutes
Tireless 2 (buggy one) = 1 full endo bar gain within 10 minutes

Feel free to convert in %/sec but feels useless it's just bad.

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Postby morry1000 » Dec 10, 2016 15:47

I tried Tireless 5 on a heavy tank during beta - totally useless.

Long Wind however, it is probably the best 1 pter you can get and I take it on every toon, irrespective of class.

And if you are a light tank etc, especially on Albion, I would say LW2 is a minimum imho.

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Postby Damsjp » Dec 10, 2016 17:26

I will go LW 2 or 3 even 4 depending on rank/need. Then just tireless 1, it's quiet ****** at this patch but it's still regen some end while running... imo for 1 point it's ok.
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Postby Feuille » Dec 10, 2016 17:27

Tireless 1 + LW3 + end pot
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Postby Falken » Dec 10, 2016 22:01

Trishin wrote:You still have i50 and iRR5 so it should be easy to test for anyone interested ;)

What a brilliant idea! Thank you!!!!
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