Savage Balancing Questions

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Outphaze
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Postby Outphaze » May 22, 2014 01:34

So after playing on Genesis for a while, I wanted to hear your opinions on exactly how much damage a savage should be doing compared to other classes.

On Genesis, savages are literally doing over 2x the damage that any other tank is capable of (zerker, BM, Merc, Arms, Hero, etc...) as a result, the ratio of savages to zerkers there is something like 20:1.

Is this normal? I understand that savages were created to be the "ultimate" melee damage machine, but it really doesn't feel balanced to me. What are they losing to balance this incredible power? The aren't losing any armor. They evade like crazy due to self buffs.

Don't pretend like the health sacrifice for buffs is balanced. One group heal from a healer and you're back to full.

Anyway, what do you guys think a balanced, fair amount of damage (in relation to other melee classes) should be?

My personal opinion:

Savages: highest average DPS
Zerker: lower average DPS than savages, but higher when in vendo mode.

Would love to hear some thoughts.
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Postby Byun » May 22, 2014 07:49

Aren't there a ****** lot of bugs on origins which make the savage much stronger than he should be? Usually the svg should have a hard time hitting through a shield tank or a guard. Haven't tested it myself on origins, but since the general defense penetration and evade rate on uthgard were far from being live like, i highly doubt that it's correct on origins^^
The thing is, zerkers are dualwielder and svgs aren't.
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Postby Celteen » May 22, 2014 10:39

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Postby Nef Melody » May 22, 2014 14:22

no clue about genesis. Savages will still outdamage zerkers without vendp & cele easily, but as soon as the savages target becomes guarded it's like nearly impossible to even land a single hit. Zerker will be the superior offtank in case uthgard will ever relaunch
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Postby realac0 » May 22, 2014 15:56

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Postby pweet » May 24, 2014 01:02

in tetris the 4 slot thing was far superior than this z shaped brick!
Since Tetris is closer to daoc than genesis (ok hands down grafics excluded) I conclude there will be some imbalances on uth for sure


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