I will try to keep this short, but we all know that is not going to happen.

I've been asked by several of my in game friends, people in the forums, and others if I plan on making a toon on Origins. My response is not only NO, but rather ****** NO!

My best example I can use to illustrate this would be in the following example:
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Lets say I weighed 500 lbs and I'm miserable with the way I look and feel. So after awhile I decide that I want to turn my life around and lose this weight. (This was me not being happy with the games I had played since I quit playing live DAoC and deciding to hop on Uthgard and try Dark Age again.)

I spend years and years busting my butt. I diet, I exercise, and I do everything I can to make myself better. (This is me farming exp, then farming not 1 but rather 4 templates for a ranger, then going out night and night again to do anything to get rp's.)

Now 3 years later I've lost 280 lbs and weigh in at 220 lbs. I feel great and people keep giving me compliments on all my hard work. (Woot, hit 10L0 finally!!)

However, after a couple years I realize people arent complimenting me anymore. Its no longer a big deal because I've stayed healthy and the 500 lb version of me is now a distant memory far from everyone else mind. So maybe I start thinking of ballooning back up to 500 lbs again just so I can restart that brutal process all over. (Server isnt as populated and now others think that by going to a new server and starting over at scratch they can relive that experience again.)

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Now, in this example that is how I feel about where I am on Uthgard. I started here 3.5-4 years ago. I missed many broken spots, bug fixes, item drops, and other things that the players who very first started here got to use, but I still made do. I didnt have access to Agramon or insta ports. I didnt ever get to farm Bears in Midgard or Ellyls in Alb land for broken drop rates. I never got to do events every week like jousts and other stuff to gain tons of unique items and reskins.

Despite me lacking advantages that those that came before me had, I worked my butt off, put in time and made it work. I felt at the top of the world when after 2.5 years of work I had my very first 10L0 toon! I then made some other toons and the rush of having that first 10L toon is faded. Things on the server are not quite what they once were and newer players are entering an even slightly harder version of what I experienced, and because of all this the server has less people now then ever before, not to mention the introduction of a new server.

Now people ask me if I want to start over again? Hell no. If Uthgard doesnt recover then oh f'ing well. I will find something else to do with my spare time. Maybe I will take up some classes, work a lil more at my job, play a new game, or whatever. Why go to Origins, restart that whole process (getting back to weighing 500 lbs again) just so I can do it all again (gain template/high RR) and feel that rush only to have it ruined by some new server or because some less intelligent people (Seksy comes to mind) that thinks you can just wipe a server and restart and everything will be roses.

This is why I will NEVER play on Origins. NEVER!

This is not a knock on Origins. I freely admit that if I was a new player starting out and had to choose between Origins and Uthgard right now I would choose Origins. Not because its better or of any sort of feature it had, as I think Uthgard is the clearly better ran server. I would only do it because of the population. However, I'm not a new player. I put in TONS of hard work and time here that I will never get back in order to obtain the goals that I have accomplished here. To go to a new server now would be like me deciding to put all my weight back on and start from scratch again because my other friends are starting to work out and lose weight now. Why? I've accomplished my goals. I'm content with what I've done here. Why start it all over again?

key word being: short

ZaiQQ wrote:key word being: short

I said I would TRY to keep it short. I even said that was not going to happen.

I've gamed for a while with Ron (Zack), and i understand his point. I think he understands mine as well.

I have 2 reasons that i rolled on Origins.

1st reason: Instant action with high numbers during American playtime. I try to log into Uthgard first and foremost, but 59 players online when i log on isnt getting it on Uthgard, so yes, i am feeding the beast. I have limited playtime and with a new baby on the way it will be even less. So i have the option of spending 1 hour twiddling my thumbs, or i can play a class unavailable on Uthgard and reminisce while exploring something i havent seen in 7 or 8 years (SI).

2nd reason: Spite. Far too many times i saw a response from certain gm's that "This is our goal... you know this is our goal... if you don't like the way we run things gtfo". I know there are more things that are causing low pop on Uthgard, but attitude for me was one of the final straws. I would still rather play there. I, like Zack, have a lot of time invested on Uthgard. So in the end, while im sorry to see the extremely low #'s every night... i'm kind of snickering under my breath about it. Players were told if they didnt like it to go do something else... maybe they did.

Aye, and losing players like you Sleepwel is what is hurting the server for sure. Its sad to see good players move onto a different server, but I certainly understand the reasons 100%. Like I said above, if I was a new player and starting out from scratch then I would also choose Origins for the exact reasons you posted.

I don't fault anyone for playing there. I think Origins has alot going for them. Population is awesome and the GM's seem pretty open to custom solutions to make things easy for new players. I can just speak for myself and if it came to the point where I was considering going to Origins then I just couldn't bring myself to start that whole time investment back to zero again.

Copy and paste Sleepwell's reasons for leaving and those are basically mine, except take out the baby part and put in the part where I have always hated crossrealming. I understand what role is has to play here on Uthgard but up until this point I had no alternatives. It erk'ed so bad to see people trading items / plat from one realm to another, to me that kills the spirit of the game.

I unlike you Zack, never got to 10L0.... I was trying! but sh!t seemed to go sour once i hit 6L3, sweeping game changes, decreasing population, the general attitude of staff here, as well as those elitists groups never picking up the new guy. Left a real nasty taste in my mouth. It also left me feeling as though I left something very much unfinished here. Now seeing as how my chances of satisfying those feelings here are going out the window day by day, I've turned towards Origins. Yes it has some flaws but the only real serious bug i've seen so far was that zerg exp and it's been fixed, it's not as bad as people who report back here make it seem. Razor and Charles will rise again! ...just on Origins

PS. Im going to make a Ranger ...name it Zacknafein, get him a pimpin' template, get him to RR10L0 and 2 years from now you'll get an Origins birthday surprise Zack!

ppl should give origins a bit time this server isnt online since 2 weeks...how was uth as he released uhmm?

they ge new hardware and if they got it this server will run smooth... and bugs will fix step by step.. only thing what is a bit stupid atm are these laggs.....but ok well they work on it and it will be fixed the nxt days

Time will fix it all...ppl will be ****** by silly bugs soon ( like it was on uthgard ), ppl will be high(er) rr soon...and noobs will be ****** ( like on uthgard ) PvE in shiny SI will be boring soon...( like EVERYWHERE )

shot version : ppl W I L L find a reason to be ******...cuz they are ppl...easy like that


I´ll wait for old ras and SI on Uthgard...there is NO single reason to start from 0 on another server...point

Cjasca wrote:Time will fix it all...ppl will be ****** by silly bugs soon ( like it was on uthgard ), ppl will be high(er) rr soon...and noobs will be ****** ( like on uthgard ) PvE in shiny SI will be boring soon...( like EVERYWHERE )

shot version : ppl W I L L find a reason to be ******...cuz they are ppl...easy like that


I´ll wait for old ras and SI on Uthgard...there is NO single reason to start from 0 on another server...point

Well bud hate to break the bad news to you but you will be starting from 0 here soon HAHAHAH!!!!!!!

Yah, that's ****** hilarious all right. Spent days, weeks, months of my life playing a game just to have it thrown out because a new server hurt the population and the GM's over react and listen to idiots that find it funny to take away others hard work. So f'ing funny...

RonELuvv wrote:I will try to keep this short, but we all know that is not going to happen.

I've been asked by several of my in game friends, people in the forums, and others if I plan on making a toon on Origins. My response is not only NO, but rather ****** NO!

My best example I can use to illustrate this would be in the following example:
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Lets say I weighed 500 lbs and I'm miserable with the way I look and feel. So after awhile I decide that I want to turn my life around and lose this weight. (This was me not being happy with the games I had played since I quit playing live DAoC and deciding to hop on Uthgard and try Dark Age again.)

I spend years and years busting my butt. I diet, I exercise, and I do everything I can to make myself better. (This is me farming exp, then farming not 1 but rather 4 templates for a ranger, then going out night and night again to do anything to get rp's.)

Now 3 years later I've lost 280 lbs and weigh in at 220 lbs. I feel great and people keep giving me compliments on all my hard work. (Woot, hit 10L0 finally!!)

However, after a couple years I realize people arent complimenting me anymore. Its no longer a big deal because I've stayed healthy and the 500 lb version of me is now a distant memory far from everyone else mind. So maybe I start thinking of ballooning back up to 500 lbs again just so I can restart that brutal process all over. (Server isnt as populated and now others think that by going to a new server and starting over at scratch they can relive that experience again.)

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Now, in this example that is how I feel about where I am on Uthgard. I started here 3.5-4 years ago. I missed many broken spots, bug fixes, item drops, and other things that the players who very first started here got to use, but I still made do. I didnt have access to Agramon or insta ports. I didnt ever get to farm Bears in Midgard or Ellyls in Alb land for broken drop rates. I never got to do events every week like jousts and other stuff to gain tons of unique items and reskins.

Despite me lacking advantages that those that came before me had, I worked my butt off, put in time and made it work. I felt at the top of the world when after 2.5 years of work I had my very first 10L0 toon! I then made some other toons and the rush of having that first 10L toon is faded. Things on the server are not quite what they once were and newer players are entering an even slightly harder version of what I experienced, and because of all this the server has less people now then ever before, not to mention the introduction of a new server.

Now people ask me if I want to start over again? Hell no. If Uthgard doesnt recover then oh f'ing well. I will find something else to do with my spare time. Maybe I will take up some classes, work a lil more at my job, play a new game, or whatever. Why go to Origins, restart that whole process (getting back to weighing 500 lbs again) just so I can do it all again (gain template/high RR) and feel that rush only to have it ruined by some new server or because some less intelligent people (Seksy comes to mind) that thinks you can just wipe a server and restart and everything will be roses.

This is why I will NEVER play on Origins. NEVER!

This is not a knock on Origins. I freely admit that if I was a new player starting out and had to choose between Origins and Uthgard right now I would choose Origins. Not because its better or of any sort of feature it had, as I think Uthgard is the clearly better ran server. I would only do it because of the population. However, I'm not a new player. I put in TONS of hard work and time here that I will never get back in order to obtain the goals that I have accomplished here. To go to a new server now would be like me deciding to put all my weight back on and start from scratch again because my other friends are starting to work out and lose weight now. Why? I've accomplished my goals. I'm content with what I've done here. Why start it all over again?

TL;DR

Meh getting loot is not a big deal on origins. I led a Caer Sidi raid and ended up with 31 peices of end game template drops to split with 8 people. Rings with like 30 dex 30 con 9 slash 9 crush. Boost with +4 skills. It wasn't even that hard to get.

You level much fast and crafting is faster, no fail on gray ftw!

When Uth comes back THAT will be a grind.

RonELuvv wrote:Yah, that's ****** hilarious all right. Spent days, weeks, months of my life playing a game just to have it thrown out because a new server hurt the population and the GM's over react and listen to idiots that find it funny to take away others hard work. So f'ing funny...

anal justice

RonELuvv wrote:Yah, that's ****** hilarious all right. Spent days, weeks, months of my life playing a game just to have it thrown out because a new server hurt the population and the GM's over react and listen to idiots that find it funny to take away others hard work. So f'ing funny...

You know this can happen in any mmo when you start to play one. Dont be surprised

RonELuvv wrote:Yah, that's ****** hilarious all right. Spent days, weeks, months of my life playing a game just to have it thrown out because a new server hurt the population and the GM's over react and listen to idiots that find it funny to take away others hard work. So f'ing funny...

So did you have fun playing or did you just play for RR10 and best gear?
I dont care if they wipe, it will be even more fun than running around with my rr10 and 11 chars.