Before I get started on this realize that I'm not trying to accuse any particular player of cheating or anything, it might not have even been the players fault, I just wanted to see if anyone else had noticed this happen before.

Yesterday, myself (on my hunter), another hunter, and Geppi (on his SB) were leaving MTK in Emain and headed towards MMG. Along the way I found Chimo (NS) stealthed. I popped him and hit him several times, I knew I was going to die since I had no RA's up, but figured with me mele'ing him and Lycana shooting him from a distance he would die. We had him down to well under 50% when all of a sudden heal, heal, heal, heal, heal, and after he killed me and ran towards Lycana he was almost at full life while heal's were still being spammed. We were way out in the open and I panned 360 degrees the whole time looking for a healer. There was not a healer anywhere around. Finally Geppi was able to drop him after he killed Lycana. The animation looked like heal procs, only they were going off on literally EVERY hit. If there was some sort of healer around he was A) healing well past the normal range of heals and B) never rez'd the NS who released afterwards even though Geppi took off right away. Once again, this was a NS who didn't have access to ip or any sort of heal short of 1 potion which should have healed maybe 200-300 health points at most. Not take a guy from under 50% life to full life.

There was another ranger named Rarar that I had seen this happen with before. I had Rarar do it to me once at MMG. I came back with Camo and watched 2 more fights of his with other players and seen these heal proc animation go off like almost every single hit. I thought there had to be a healer around so I checked every crevice around MMG and nobody was around. I fought him 2 more times after that and both of those fights it was heal proc after almost every single hit.

Is this something a player can force with some sort of third party tool usage, or maybe a tweaking of the game files? Has anyone else noticed this happening on occasion? I will try my best to fraps something like this if I see it again, but I dont normally have fraps running since it slows down my computer. Also, as we have seen in previous threads, a fraps doesnt always prove to a GM that there is something wrong happening. Also, please dont tell me that he was just "lucky". That is BS. There is maybe 3 items I can think of that a NS can use that have a heal proc on them, so I would have to hit one of those 3 items every single swing AND on top of that they would have to proc on every hit. It wasnt a piercer going off either since the animation on the lifetap is the red mist witht the skull. This was the heal proc animations that was going off non stop. The chances of that happening are damn close to zero.

Probably lag^^

I was on the hunter shooting him and he went to almost full hp twice from under 25% and 50%. I've never seen anything like this. If every hit made a heal proc is there a chance a certain leather item with heal proc is bugged? This guy was dead two times over and came back at full hp. Maybe just a string of lucky procs? Idk but like Zack said we looked for heal class and no one was in clipping range.

hmm ns with heal reprocs, I don ´t think so ,-) . Sounds weird, I think staff will check that. Be careful with public namecalling, it ´s always better to report such cases to the staff with a pm.

As I said at the start, this is not about calling out players. As far as I know Rarar and Chimo might not have done a single thing wrong and by all means if they read this then please chime in and explain what you seen. I'm not accusing them of bug abusing or hacking, but a players name is needed to draw validity and see if any other players have seen similiar behavior from the same toons. For example, In Mgda's case the first several times I heard about his snare immunity I figured it was just lag or a rare occurence. It wasnt until many players started talking about it that I started to pay attention and watch for myself. I'm just wanting to see if any other players have noticed this from ANY other players OR from either of the players I mentioned.

RonELuvv wrote:As I said at the start, this is not about calling out players. As far as I know Rarar and Chimo might not have done a single thing wrong and by all means if they read this then please chime in and explain what you seen. I'm not accusing them of bug abusing or hacking, but a players name is needed to draw validity and see if any other players have seen similiar behavior from the same toons. For example, In Mgda's case the first several times I heard about his snare immunity I figured it was just lag or a rare occurence. It wasnt until many players started talking about it that I started to pay attention and watch for myself. I'm just wanting to see if any other players have noticed this from ANY other players OR from either of the players I mentioned.

Don't heal procs have 3 sec cast time anyway? I mean, they can't go off so fast one after another like ablative, right? So it must have been a bug or some tool usage...

I can confirm that similar situations happend to me while fighting other stealthers but I can´t give you any names. It was exactly the same situation like Ron has described when you fighting another stealther in the middle of nowhere and it goes pling, pling, pling, pling and you just think....wtf... how does he get heals. I can also confirm, that the animation looks like heal proc, small group heal or base heal or something similar.

tried looking up ? mybe a healbot with flyhack

I have also seen this fighting hib stealthers. I fought some RR5 melee ranger in DF fully buffed and every single time I hit him he got a heal. I just assumed Hib had some chest piece or something with a healproc and I was getting unlucky.

Ginsu wrote:I was on the hunter shooting him and he went to almost full hp twice from under 25% and 50%. I've never seen anything like this. If every hit made a heal proc is there a chance a certain leather item with heal proc is bugged? This guy was dead two times over and came back at full hp. Maybe just a string of lucky procs? Idk but like Zack said we looked for heal class and no one was in clipping range.

IT WAS PROBABLY LAG. QUIT ARGUING

yeah, we watched him several hours, only lag ofc!

i noticed that to while fighting a ranger (dont know the name anymore) ..... maybe there should be something like a proccap since the randomgenerator on uth is buged anyway?! just an idea...


p.s.: ofc the randomgenerator works perfectly

MotionSick wrote:

Ginsu wrote:I was on the hunter shooting him and he went to almost full hp twice from under 25% and 50%. I've never seen anything like this. If every hit made a heal proc is there a chance a certain leather item with heal proc is bugged? This guy was dead two times over and came back at full hp. Maybe just a string of lucky procs? Idk but like Zack said we looked for heal class and no one was in clipping range.

IT WAS PROBABLY LAG. QUIT ARGUING

Heal proc heals for 100 dmg and you hit for more or maybe a bit less if he has high PD, + at one point 2 of you were hitting him, correct? Further more, heal procs have cast time and I honestly don't think someone can heal that fast and for so much while being hit. Must be a bug.

Cadam wrote:p.s.: ofc the randomgenerator works perfectly

The RNG IS working perfectly fine. Why ever you bring that up again. Its not even related to this.