Hey you, Alb or Hib ...

You are a running with a group / guild of low RR toons and you are looking for other fights than the ... ôô how interesting fights against the same high RR groups ?

Try us !!!

We are a group of RR3 Mids and looking for something else than the David vs Goliath fights (truth be told : David got spanked to death).

We are mostly running on Sunday/Tuesday/Wednesday with a 8 men group, and sometimes we try to run with more than 8 to try our chance against high RR (even though it hasn't proved really efficient till now).


La Bifle Noire needs you !!!

RR helps but it doesnt determine the fight results, fact is a low rr grp vs a high rr grp u may not always win but for sure u will always learn more than fighting a low rr grp, the harder grps on uthgard are not carried by rr but carried by the fact they play day in day out together or atleast run similar grps / setups. make the most of fighting grps with x10 the amount of rps ur grp currently has and learn as much as possible so when u can eventualy match their RR u will stand the best chance. RR does not = skill just look at DG.... they completly avoided the challenge when they was low rr they ran 2+ fg untill they were rr10+ they became confident enough to run just an 8man and look at them now. all rr10-11-12 and i was able to kill the with team ingo from rr4+ because skill + teamwork = rr.

I hope you find some low realm rank groups to night. Maybe NostressFR could be a solution for you. I dunno about many low rr hib groups. But maybe there are some out there.

Atleast i hope you find something for your realmrank aswell

Chikane get down from your mountain!

Ok lets say that,

if u are a Full RR4 Group you just will get smashed. Once you hit RR5 and your healer get their basics(mana RA´s, BoF, DI) etc. then we can talk about kill better groups.

Everyone who said oh we were RR4 and just stomped every group over and over in the past 2 years, well its simply not true.

Even when we started Addengarde Skarz...( you weren´t in TI with RR4) we lost versus DG and not only once. Yes we were able to kill them also but in the start when we hadn´t any RA´s it was quite hard. Once we switched a Higher RR Cleric in and had some BoF and more Mana, after that we are able to win way more then loose. Like it was with other groups i played in. The start with no RA´s is always hard .

SO yeah if u are LoW-RR probably many groups will just stomp you ( at the moment with NEW RA´s).

However OLD RA´s will implemented and then its totally different. It depends way more which RA´s are up or not, because of the hightimer on it.

never claimed to have stomped all grps but now u mention it ye we pretty much did and as u rightly said i was in addengarde with u and guffer, smokeys and zerpi was in TI, yaaha was in BA, fluxx was in rotla and we took a RANDOM dps every day. we was a PUG! just how it should of been, ye we got lucky since the majority of our PUG was great players but we continued to play with each other on the basis we had fun and alot of it too. we got better and better untill we all joined 1 guild with plans to play more serious than ever before just how it should of been.

no clue why people try jumping to the top of the ladder not realising there are steps.

and my overall point is rvr is viable as a low rr grp vs high rr grps aslong as u learn and improve its not a waste of time, Prime is another great example it must be said, hats off to them.... they entered emain as a low rr newbie guild, they got smashed, after few weeks they was STILL low rr newbie guild with developing tactics and they rocked the boat, killed team ingo, requiem and many others.

just dnt give up, DAOC it like no other game. ppl who played daoc as their first mmo have learned to live with the game, but many ppl have experienced 2yr old friendly games first then came to daoc thinking how the Fc*k is this fair or even possible. well i just told u.

Thats a lie. Fluxx was in rotla for 2-3days only!

Skarz wrote:and we took a RANDOM dps every day. we was a PUG! just how it should of been, ye we got lucky since the majority of our PUG was great players but we continued to play with each other on the basis we had fun and alot of it too. we got better and better untill we all joined 1 guild with plans to play more serious than ever before just how it should of been.

sounds like a real PUG, always the same guys getting better and better
1 random on such an unimportant position does not make you a PUG

we on the other hand have 3-4 players that are in the grp more or less regular. The rest is random (even if they are often from our guild). So yeah you managed to win some fights with a set group against a random grp with some high rr, gratz on that.

edit: sry for off topic @ the low rank grp, if you miss a warri and you see me online feel free to send me a tell, i like to play in low rr grps, don't rage if we only wipe the whole evening and like to meet new people. But you would risk being called DG grp and become a wanking material for smokeys and chikane.

my point holsten is i dnt even know smokeys, zerpi, fluxx yahaa ect, they took a chance on me as did i on them. day 1 was a pug, day 2 still a pug... i guess after few weeks we wasnt a classic pug since we looked to grp with each other.

p.s im using my background to teach ppl not to be so scared of rvr, anythings possible and the person who wants to do organised rr3 8v8 has by the sounds of it a solid grp already and waiting which is more than what i had. although addengarde had the best intentions alot of them didnt make it to 50 atleast not for a long long time.

When we run with rr4,5 druid rr5 warden rr5 bard we lose most of the fights, with rr8 druids, rr11 warden and rr11 bard life was alot easier and that's not due to other players ;p
Having rr8+ clerics / druids / healer is mandatory with NF RA's for most fights.

Skarz wrote:my point holsten is i dnt even know smokeys, zerpi, fluxx yahaa ect, they took a chance on me as did i on them. day 1 was a pug, day 2 still a pug... i guess after few weeks we wasnt a classic pug since we looked to grp with each other.

yeah and after 4 years here we are still a pug and will always be 90% of the time, as our goal is not to become the best grp here but to just have some fun.
There was a time about 3 years ago were we had a kind of setgroup for 1 year, and you never played against us in that time. You would remember from a tatoo on your butt "holsten was here".

no need for u to get on the defensive holsten, i havnt accused u or DG of anything apart from providing a strong inc on our early days and its pretty obvious what ur saying we certainly noticed u ran different setups with different ppl depending on the day of the week ect. i personly found ur strongest setup was when u ran with pesti ect. as for the 8/8 DG pug excuse thats kinda flawed since i think majority of DG earned all their rps whilst in ur grps so its safe to say u got some teamplay experience

real pugs use the ''headless chicken'' tactic everyone does what ever they want, nobody knows whos gonna do what and when and communication is minimal.

the tattoo was just an insider joke from the german forum section, would not be funny anymore if i explain

Skarz wrote:real pugs use the ''headless chicken'' tactic everyone does what ever they want, nobody knows whos gonna do what and when and communication is minimal.

Thats is exactly our best and only tactic

We all love you Holsten and Skarz no worries, you are not alone!

Celteen wrote:When we run with rr4,5 druid rr5 warden rr5 bard we lose most of the fights, with rr8 druids, rr11 warden and rr11 bard life was alot easier and that's not due to other players ;p
Having rr8+ clerics / druids / healer is mandatory with NF RA's for most fights.

thats pretty much it.. most of the so called "low rr grps" (that played some more) i saw during the past 1-2 months had high rr support. sure, routine with your char and your grp is essential, but its not the only thing. playing as a high rr vs low rr grp, lots of mistakes are forgiven. you can sustain the fight way longer, whereas the low rr grp has to play pretty much all in, and win it before mana and/or the few rr's are gone. so if you wanna win vs high rr grps (at least from my perspective), you cant afford any mistakes and have to make it quick.

but anyway, as interessting as your stories may be for some (for me, they weren't), fighting only vs high rr grps for the sake of learning - i mean, really? sure, learning is fun, thats why we all loved school so very much, but with rr4 u also would like to see at least a little progress in your rp bar... its really nice to get pounded by high rr grps (most of them also play better, some dont) all evening, dont even make 10k rps, and say "thanks for the great fight" afterwards. but some ppl just want to have fun now, and not just in 1-2 years (care: exaggeration!). some ppl actually enjoy to compete against even opponents.

thats why i happily clicked on this thread and thought, "maybe its an alb or hib grp".
i wish you the very best guys, have fun and dont give up.. but not with running against set grps over and over again, but looking for similar grps from other realms.

holsten-knight wrote:1 random on such an unimportant position does not make you a PUG

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