Please guys, i thought of that over and over:

Please install more Battlegrounds, at least two more from 4l2 to 5l5 and from 5l5 to 6l5 or even 7.
Make each of them a little bigger, get people step buy step used to the open zones.

Yes, its not livelike but so is uthgard ...

As everyone can see in thidranki, the server does not lack of rvr motivation. But it lacks of motivation to go through the evertaking stage of reaching the bottom of top rvr competiveness which is basically reached with rr5-8, depends on class.

People enjoy much of rvr when they expect enemies which are in the same range. They even try to avoid outnumbering the enemy which, for daoc, is a real indicator.
So the basic willingness to have a decent rvr environment is in that case given. But right now it is the surrounding that gives them a hard time.

Yes, this is an approach to enhance 8v8 gameplay and daoc is not a 8v8 game. Nevertheless people enjoy it, and there is still plenty of room for running bigger squads when you go for big bad open frontiers. Be it simply roaming zerg, keep raiding or relic raiding, whatever. There are no limits on this end.

Do it guys, try it at least. Make it temporary, see whats coming out. Then decide. It can be shut down within a day if there are that bad sideffects.
What can be lost by giving it a chance?

ofc i am talking about lvl 50 battlegrounds which are only separating low bob realm ranks, if that wasnt clear

Na. We just need a lv 20-24 bg, with /xp off and /rp off.

as much as i would enjoy this as well, it wouldnt help lead people to final rvr.

People would still reroll, just later on.

My only thing is to just turn "/xp off" on again.

Why allow people to suicide if you are not going to allow this slash command. If you dont want people in Thid for ever, just let them cap out via RPs. Whats the big deal?

In the mean time... ill just have to keep jumping off that wall in Svasud Faste and having a shaman/healer friend rez me over and over and over again.

Recap:

Allow - "/xp off"
Dont Allow - "/rp off"

Why would you want to thin the population even more? Horrid Idea.

Vlalkor wrote:Why would you want to thin the population even more? Horrid Idea.

QFT

If only there was a realm ability system from classic times that didn't grossly reward people for being far above RR6.

Force wrote:If only there was a realm ability system from classic times that didn't grossly reward people for being far above RR6.

Grossly reward? It really doesn't take that much time to reach rr6, the problem, imo is... people make 10x alts and get them all to 4L2 and complain that real RVR is too difficult. Spend some time on 1 or 2 toons and devote your time to playing them.

The reason you're not gaining RPs isn't because RR4's are underpowered, it's because you aren't devoting enough time to a single character.

My great granpappy and his pappy before that had to do the hardships of frontier war! And you should too!

XP Off won't return.

Well old bgs are coming and that means you will be forced out into the frontiers much sooner, so if you're crying now you will def stop playing once that happens. And a bg from rr5-rr6? Give me a break. The only thing I could see being reasonable is maybe a battle ground type zone opens once the population drops during US but even this is unnecessary becuz essentially this is what emain is and we already get a huge bonus there. So if players already avoid that bonus there is no point to waste time on custom bgs that won't get used anyway

What really needs to change is a way for hib to get to Emain in a time comparable to alb & mid.

Outphaze wrote:

Force wrote:If only there was a realm ability system from classic times that didn't grossly reward people for being far above RR6.

Grossly reward? It really doesn't take that much time to reach rr6, the problem, imo is... people make 10x alts and get them all to 4L2 and complain that real RVR is too difficult. Spend some time on 1 or 2 toons and devote your time to playing them.

The reason you're not gaining RPs isn't because RR4's are underpowered, it's because you aren't devoting enough time to a single character.

Well, this might be a point, but it leads to the logic, doing rvr, to be able to do rvr, to be able to do rvr, and so on.
Basically i dont do rvr because i want a certain (or generally higher) realm rank, i do it because its fun. And the vivid action in thidranki proves me right that many other people think the same way.

You bring up the point yourself. WHY on earth do people want to level toon after toon just to have like ~250k rps of fun and then start the hassle again? Because it brings them so much more fun to fight in a, somewhat, balanced area than to spend hours of roaming with high probabilty of then getting slain without a chance.


But all of this i allready off topic.

Right now, the general problem is, that the staff forces a certain style of gameplay. You can do absolutely nothing about this.
And in more detail, the problem is, that instead setting out incentives for the desired goal, they bascially restrict everything else until nothing else is left. And everybody sees how this isn't working.
Let alone speaking the complains about /xp off.
Who cares about /xp off when the real deal is /rp off? Make a good guess how your chances are changing something about that discussing it
All of this is not for discussion, the staff just sets it out, and hardly cares about any reaction of the playerbase as long as it doesnt fit with their idea of how daoc is to play.

So, since i see little to no use at all, to try to change things regarding the general freedom of playstyle, this idea is an approach to fit "in the line" ...
Having one or more high level battleground doesnt speak again the long term goal to get more people to final rvr.
Each realm is, more or less, and in differing cycles, interessted in df and in relics which ensures at least a basic amount of open frontier acitivity. The only thing that can probably, and then only temporarily, thin out, is "standard roaming". And how can that probably thin out more? There is barely any action because the people are stuck to thid. The people you see roaming are more or less a constant base of players and within this base, a considerable amount are crossrealmers which keep this action alive.


/edit:
Just see abydos comment about how indiscussionable things are, proves entirely what i just explained...

In additional battlegrounds i see the option to take the potential of thidrank one step head, and then another, maybe.