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Postby Cowsmoo » Dec 18, 2012 15:00

How is this going to be addressed?

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Postby Fortyseven » Dec 18, 2012 15:04

In the last (almost 4) years of Uthgard, I've personally seen the balance shift more than just "a few times". Since cross-realm playing is allowed here, population imbalances tend to sort themselves out sooner or later. Usually, the top dog realm will run out of enemies and a lot of players re-roll in other realms.
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Postby majky666 » Dec 18, 2012 15:08

Fortyseven wrote:In the last (almost 4) years of Uthgard, I've personally seen the balance shift more than just "a few times". Since cross-realm playing is allowed here, population imbalances tend to sort themselves out sooner or later. Usually, the top dog realm will run out of enemies and a lot of players re-roll in other realms.

Or instead roll another realm quits Uthgard (who wants be zerged again and again or as top dog realm fight only vs stupid mobs,because all enemies rerolled to topdog or quited and all keeps are taken and claimed?)
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Postby Oswaldo » Dec 18, 2012 15:17

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Postby Spivo » Dec 18, 2012 15:33

Fortyseven wrote:In the last (almost 4) years of Uthgard, I've personally seen the balance shift more than just "a few times". Since cross-realm playing is allowed here, population imbalances tend to sort themselves out sooner or later. Usually, the top dog realm will run out of enemies and a lot of players re-roll in other realms.


Albion has been underdog for more than 1 year now, and according to statistics keeps slipping further and further down.

And as it's been so far, only people to reroll alb has been 8 man groups, and they don't benefit realm because they live up to the "no-add" policy, which means they don't help out their "own" realm.

Have no solution, but to say that it sorts itself out is kinda naive seeing how it looks now, and in the lights that people apparently takes much pride in pve'ing keeps :)
Albion and having fun

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Postby Mee » Dec 18, 2012 15:38

Recent imbalance?, or maybe just lack of enthusiasm to get in the frontiers?

Last 7 days:

Realm:
Hibernia-31% of the players online-37% of the rps gained

Albion-33% of the players online-25% of the rps gained

MIdgard-36% of the players online-38% of the rps gained


The player population seems fairly balanced. Population usually stays in the 30% per realm range or pretty close, but as you can see the RP per realm statistics are off quite a bit. I agree with Fortyseven. I've been on Uthgard for @ 4 years and its a cycle. The underdog flips all the time. People get tired of little or no inc and they go play on a different realm for a bit. This usually happens for 1 of 2 reason. (1) They want encourage "incoming" so they play the underdog realm to at least find some kind of action, or (2) They roll the powerhouse to jump on the bandwagon of fotm realm with all or most relics and "rvr" population advantage. If a whole guild or several guilds decide to do this at the same time, then it just creates a sway in the other direction.
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Postby Xacrag » Dec 18, 2012 15:51

Thats the Midgard Status:
Besorger and friends / Schwarze Legion / Blutrausch-Ally / Italicvs / Draghi and plenthy other Midsgroups who build Zerg.

Then you have Sign and Drachengarde(ofc they add all what they see, Flump need RR12 so hard...) who run FG. Maybe some other PuG at the moment too.....

Look in Hib at the moment, there was actually yesterday a guy who tried to build up a Zerg but was not possible for him, he had like 2-2,5 FG´s not more :).

So you have MB running, sometimes (most time lately) Rinnegati-Group and probably 1 Keep Raiding Group.

Look at alb, you have 1 PUG running 8v8 - and then you have MYTH-ALLY Alb Group(mostly around 2 groups as i know but not sure)

So lets do a overview:

Mids: 2 Groups are 8vs8 oriented and about 5-6 FG´s Raiding Keeps and Zerging
Hibs: 2 Groups are 8vs8 oriented and about 1 FG Raiding Keeps.
Albs: 1 Group is 8vs8 oriented and about 2 FG Raiding Keeps.

Who find the problem?

Considering the population its not a problem of unbalanced population its a problem from player who don´t join RVR (in Alb + Hib).

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Postby imamizer » Dec 18, 2012 15:56

majky666 wrote:Or instead roll another realm quits Uthgard (who wants be zerged again and again or as top dog realm fight only vs stupid mobs,because all enemies rerolled to topdog or quited and all keeps are taken and claimed?)

Liked your post by mistake :) Albion is not under populated becouse of the mid domination. Most players have mid/alb/hib toons at the same time. If those ppl prefer to play with their mid toons, you should ask yourself what is wrong with albion and hibernia. Just talking for myself, have 3 alb toons and I rarely play with them. Sorry but Alb has the worst endgame comunity. Too many ppl being mean, trying to teach others how to play their toons, waiting for hours to find a high rr or someone they know to fill the group and dont invite anyone else. It's much more easier to play on mid or hib, most endgame players are kind and helpful.

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Postby RonELuvv » Dec 18, 2012 17:11

Mee up above is absolutely right. If you would like I can go back and post several threads from over a year ago in which Midgard was claiming the EXACT same thing. "How are we supposed to compete with Albion and Hibernia when we have no RvR players..." Fast forward a year and wham, Midgard has the highest population. Albion had by far the strongest community when I first came here. Then Hibernia had it for a little while. Now Midgard has it. I promise that within the year you will see less Midgard players and another realm will take that status. I'm guessing Albion since they have had a long time since being on top of the realm war.

I dont think that its a community issue either Trishin. Yes, I will admit that currently Midgard has alot of people that are running around w/ casuals in zerg's or keep raids, but I bet 90% of those Midgards that are doing that have level 50's in Hibernia or Albion and could do the exact same thing. I think that its just that alot of the players with that casual player mindset are on Midgard atm. Hibernia used to do the same thing at one point and Albion before the keep take change was the worst realm at going out to task or do "casual" RvR. Hibernia and Albion just need to get a few people to pick up the reigns and not be afraid to take some low RR's out and have some fun.

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Postby Austerim » Dec 18, 2012 18:26

People like Hightmute deleted their chars on other realms to be 100% Midtard. :(
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lordgriffon wrote:Oh by the way... ever seen a group of 8 smite clerics? Or play against a group like that? I have. Absolute devastation. The group that runs up against them can't kill them fast enough because smite clerics have sooooooo many tools at their disposal combined with decent ranged damage with 8 of them dudes doing it!

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Postby Lucifire » Dec 19, 2012 01:42

Albion's loot is gimped therefore no one gets far in it. Compare alb to the other realms, seems everything on alb is twice the cost as hib and mid(from what i've heard, I don't play other realms.... yet). It is very hard to make money here.
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Postby imamizer » Dec 19, 2012 01:55

Lucifire wrote:Albion's loot is gimped therefore no one gets far in it. Compare alb to the other realms, seems everything on alb is twice the cost as hib and mid(from what i've heard, I don't play other realms.... yet). It is very hard to make money here.

Well it's the economy. More of the item on the market, less price it will have. I play all the realms and there is no difference about the alb loot. Alb kills the dragon once or twice a week, so they have the highest prices for the stones etc. It's the similar for SH, DF drops.

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Postby Tiberian1986 » Dec 19, 2012 02:05

Yes I agree. We (mids) make Dr sometimes 2-3 a day :) and legion every 2 days. So the price is lower than in Albion (for respec). And all get the chance to win with /roll.

The main Dr in Alb uses the old WoW forum point system. Thats nice, when u need a special Weapon so you just save the Points to get it. But to make fast money every run, that does not work.

In mid every char gets 1-2 respec every raid + the chance to win something good.

When I was hib we made many legion raids with Redfox, but it seems, that changed? But still easyer than in alb.

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Postby Austerim » Dec 19, 2012 02:54

Tiberian1986 wrote:When I was hib we made many legion raids with Redfox, but it seems, that changed? But still easyer than in alb.
Well Midgard does have DF 99% of the time these days so hard to kill Legion on other realms. ;)
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lordgriffon wrote:Oh by the way... ever seen a group of 8 smite clerics? Or play against a group like that? I have. Absolute devastation. The group that runs up against them can't kill them fast enough because smite clerics have sooooooo many tools at their disposal combined with decent ranged damage with 8 of them dudes doing it!

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Postby Tiberian1986 » Dec 19, 2012 03:00

Austerim wrote:
Tiberian1986 wrote:When I was hib we made many legion raids with Redfox, but it seems, that changed? But still easyer than in alb.
Well Midgard does have DF 99% of the time these days so hard to kill Legion on other realms. ;)


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