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Is there any plans to implement this at all?

I assume it will come with the RVR rewrite, if it comes at all.

It's a very demoralizing run that 80% of the time ends up with you being ganked.

well all I can say is that the Staff and the Player Council both agree that this is a hardship on Hibernia, it has been talked about and suggestions have been made but I dont think anything has been decided yet.

I believe Blue said that in the RvR rework that he plans on implementing portal chains like you had with New Frontiers. So if Hibs own all their keeps they will be able to port to say Crim or Bolg so that would be essentially what you are asking for.

I agree with you on this Seethoven, however, just to be devils advocate, imagine being a solo Alb player. Good luck getting threw AMG on a consistant basis. At least with the horse route we have 2 paths and can always take the extra long route on foot or on personal mount. Yah, Alb has a much shorter run but they HAVE to go threw that gate at some point or become really good at lag jumping over the AMG walls.

get 7 friends ranger ololo

Well, the same could be said for HR campers.

RonELuvv wrote:
I agree with you on this Seethoven, however, just to be devils advocate, imagine being a solo Alb player. Good luck getting th AMG through on a consistant basis.

I've often thought of the ridiculousness of that and wonder if my camping of AMG is the same as HR camping, and decided no because I'm a non-threatening druid. I imagine the Death Row camping is probably just as bad though.

The other day I ran into Soon at MMG and he sat down for the kill, later that day I was playing a mid toon (likely story) and asked Soon why he sat, and he said he had rez sick. Do you know how impossible it is to make it all the way to emain while still having rez sick in Hib? I imagine in Mid/Alb you can get to the gates 3 times in the amount of times it takes a Hib depending on your luck with ports.

So if Hibs own all their keeps they will be able to port to say Crim or Bolg so that would be essentially what you are asking for.

So, you're telling me Hib has to own like 6? or so keeps, at the very least for a port... but wouldn't that mean that most likely we would own DF in that scenario? And also, doesn't it mean that the other realms can't control DF without having at least one of ours keeps?

Mixed views on this TBH. Soloing most of the time it is hard to get the ranger grp population down since 80-90% of the time they are rezzed by other grps or their own support class. Also, most of the time when anyone is out to kill albs are in 5 minute ports so no we can't make it to amg with rez sick that often if ever. Soon most likely did not have ras up is why he sat vs res sick XD. I would like to facilitate RVR, but you would also have to look at the implications of doing this say during relic defense or raid.

Then need one port for mids and albs in their rvr zone, one for odins and for haadrians

Hard to really tell if it's a good idea or not with ports...

If so, then Dun Crauchon would seem the better place, as it then creates a bottle-neck for Hibs to pass as well, and they'd need to hold on to the keep (same would go for Mids/Albs).
And of course, siege on keep stops all porting.

For groups, the travel time is not a big issue, often they find fights in Breifine anyway, so we don't have all RvR 8 man fights going on in Emain only. And speed 6 is really quite fast...

For solo's, the travel is the "milegates", the risk of being ganked on the way to the action.
Remove the need for horse-routes, and you favour hibs, with albs especially suffering the most, as it's always alb milegate being "sieged" by 5+ rangers (unless it's albs who stealth zerg it themselves ).


I understand the arguments about this benefiting all, as less travel time = more action = more rp's etc...
But that means OF is a fail (although I never did like OF, but that is the server we play on, so...), and they might as well remove half the zones, or make it a BG zone.

OF was never designed for the kind of player numbers we have to deal with on Uth, so to recreate the gaming experience of early daoc, the zone needs to be smaller; I don't think there is any argument against that (apart from some purists that put agendas over common sense). Porter chains are a good start but ultimately OF had a number of issues that Mythic tried to rectify with NF (keeps, porter chains, less disastrous zone design, and so on) - so rather than trying to fiddle with the OF map to NF-ify it, I personally would prefer NF where such measures (like flexible active zone size through porter chains) are already built-on (and patch-appropriate ^^). But as others already said, the porters will probably come, nothing one can do until then.

Lasastard wrote:OF was never designed for the kind of player numbers we have to deal with on Uth, so to recreate the gaming experience of early daoc, the zone needs to be smaller; I don't think there is any argument against that (apart from some purists that put agendas over common sense). Porter chains are a good start but ultimately OF had a number of issues that Mythic tried to rectify with NF (keeps, porter chains, less disastrous zone design, and so on) - so rather than trying to fiddle with the OF map to NF-ify it, I personally would prefer NF where such measures (like flexible active zone size through porter chains) are already built-on (and patch-appropriate ^^). But as others already said, the porters will probably come, nothing one can do until then.

Hear you brother
Make a poll on NF vs. OF, then make one week where you close down Hib frontier, and make the same poll again...
I'd love to see what people think of OF when they're forced to navigate Penn Mt. for a whole week

I still remember with glee a fight our mid group had on Live, vs an alb kite group inside Penn Mt. labyrinth, omg that was super fun

it cant be so hard for hibs you dont need to use ports and can take a horse... in the time albs/mids wait for port you will be often again in emain