Well personally its going to suck for me on my other toons but ill get over it.....

But really the only BUFFbarrel people i will miss is s/c -.- most people use charge d/q and haste anyway the people who are most effected by barrels are those that use power and hp pots.....

Everyone needs to stop complaining about buff barrels and get over it imo, there are ways to adapt, my druid just seems to constantly be getting less and less useful in rvr (thx to moc fix {which is acually ok since its a bug} and the pet constantly getting slower and slower) I can't even kite people now b/c even on passive my pet can't catch up to me sprinting.......

But i'm not going to quit playing my battledruid b/c of that ill just try to find a new way to get some kills

SO STOP CRYING ABOUT BARRELS

miggy wrote: my druid just seems to constantly be getting less and less useful in rvr

well guess what, he just got even less useful, unless you are willing to craft potions every day.

miggy wrote:I can't even kite people now b/c even on passive my pet can't catch up to me sprinting.......

Which pet you had? Did you have a speed buff?

Blue wrote:

miggy wrote:I can't even kite people now b/c even on passive my pet can't catch up to me sprinting.......

Which pet you had? Did you have a speed buff?

Druid gets no pet speed buff. . .

I think that all my pets go the same speed, (though i thought on live bear was stronger, lynx attacks faster, and wolf was faster movement. . . been a long time since i played there though)

I asked whether you had a speed buff on you while you lost the pet. Could you give more details? Did you use a horse?

Blue wrote:I asked whether you had a speed buff on you while you lost the pet. Could you give more details? Did you use a horse?

no i was sprinting and i tried to get pet to catch up by putting him on passive (which before would make him go faster to catch up to me) but this time he was still going same speed which was slower than sprint

miggy wrote:

Blue wrote:I asked whether you had a speed buff on you while you lost the pet. Could you give more details? Did you use a horse?

no i was sprinting and i tried to get pet to catch up by putting him on passive (which before would make him go faster to catch up to me) but this time he was still going same speed which was slower than sprint

Show me tomorrow ingame.

@ Blue: ok i see that pet DOES catch up but it is so slow that its not feasible to try and kite with it, that's what the big problem is.

I tried kiting with pet after the speed change thinking it would be faster but instead it was slower. it takes so long for pet to catch up to the person I'm kiting that i would either have to be really lucky or wait 15 mins for pet to stun, thats assuming i can keep up sprint without endo regain (which im sure alot of people will still be running with).

before i could set pet to passive and he would zoom on up to me and i could have him turn around to attack target, if lucky get pet stun off, but now i would have less chances to hit b/c pet is so slow.

If pet is meant to be REALLY slow to catching up i suppose then thats ok ... but not practical for kiting purposes

i have fraps of before and after the speed change (before is of me kiting a merc) after i just am running from pet but you'll notice it takes a long time for pet to come to me.

It's been awhile since i played live but i thought pets were faster then they are now....

hellou i sell barrel of fortitude on alb send me a pm =)

I thought buff barrels disappearing would be a good idea if they made disappear buff pots and buff charges too, having to use this myself to compete with others in same conditions sux, they last only 10 mins and you must recast them having to wait 1 min between each cast, always hated to do all this job and I prefer the situation that only classes with own buffs can get them.

Losing pow barrels is what I think is really a very bad thing, power bars last few time in this server (dont know live, never played there) and who will suffer much more will be heal classes, always was a hard job to keep pow bar up enough time to finish 1 fight (8vs8 I mean) with RAs+pow barrel...now is impossible to play pow user classes imo.

Letting the barrels/bottles in and removing the buffpotions would be the much better solution for the players (which play if they have fun with the game, not if the version is as near as possible to 1.69).

I think a 5-10 minute reuse for Buff-Potions (Only able to acheive 1-2 buffs at a time) would have been more appropriate than a complete eradication of barrels.

. . . But that custom idea would most likely be thrown out.

I just hope that, if staff will really implement tokens one day, they'll remove totally buffpots.
Imho the best solution is: complete removal of buffpots only + barrels as they were for pom, endu, heal, water, ecc...
But let's see what happens.

Celad wrote:I just hope that, if staff will really implement tokens one day, they'll remove totally buffpots.
Imho the best solution is: complete removal of buffpots only + barrels as they were for pom, endu, heal, water, ecc...
But let's see what happens.

If removal of barrel, then ALL barrels, why should be only have heal/endu/mana barrel and not others ? ^^

Orihiime wrote:

Celad wrote:I just hope that, if staff will really implement tokens one day, they'll remove totally buffpots.
Imho the best solution is: complete removal of buffpots only + barrels as they were for pom, endu, heal, water, ecc...
But let's see what happens.

If removal of barrel, then ALL barrels, why should be only have heal/endu/mana barrel and not others ? ^^

Because if they forbade buffbots to encourage grouping and make buff classes still desiderable and useful in RvR, i think it's consistent to remove buffpots too. Other barrels (i refer to insta, maybe it was not clear form my previous post) are used independently both in RvR and PvE situations, e.g. every caster has pom barrels in midgard even if paci are always in every rvr group. Moreover they are not a great gap between casuals and hardcore because it's not something you have to use in every inc to be competitive (opposite of buffpots).

But now, with single pots still here, there is just more gap because now to run buffed you have to waste more and more time in crafting and running up and down from the vault. Using Baman words to be clear:

Baman wrote:After having some time to think about the barrel change, I've come to the conclusion that it is quite good... for me. As everyone knows I have a great deal of patience when it comes to visiting my house vault after every other fight. I've been hearing a lot of people talking about giving up running buffed because of the barrel change. That makes me happy. I have the perseverance to remain buffed no matter what it takes or how big of a timesink it cuts into my rvr. Most people don't. So thank you, GMs, for giving me another advantage. I really do appreciate it.