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Wiffy
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Postby Wiffy » Jun 16, 2012 19:06

Dear All,

i can not understand why there are always changes to make the game more livelike.

Uthgard is not livelike, we have Tajendi with overpowered items and other custom changes.
Why don´t you skip this livelike thing and patch to balance. On live everybody used Buffbot.
On Uthgard its not allowed, so Rangers are overpowered as hell compared to other Stealther classes.

Instead of nerfing Viper you patch PA dmg to crap. The dmg was quite Ok even if it was not livelike.
Viper 3 dmg may be also livelike but as we have no buffbots here as on live, the dmg is too high compared to the health of players.

Some things have never been changed on live server because buffbots were quite normal so the balancing was done on buffed players.

You delete barrels.... another pain in the ass for other stealthers than Rangers...
Hib Groups have big advantage on nerfing pots because they have more heal classes in grp than other realms...

I can´t understand why livelike is more important than happy users...
Please think about your strategy.

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Magicco
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Postby Magicco » Jun 16, 2012 19:16

well blue once stated he dont wanna a server with tons of people, he wants a 1.69 server

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Icharus
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Postby Icharus » Jun 16, 2012 19:19

Magicco wrote:well blue once stated he dont wanna a server with tons of people, he wants a 1.69 server



He is getting what he wished for then!!

(downloading DAOC live client as I write this...)
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Postby Wiffy » Jun 16, 2012 19:25

If he really wants a strict 1.69 server he should delete Tajendi as a first step to be serious.


But Tajendi is a part of uthgard, Barrels are a part of uthgard and now balancing could also be a part instead of 1.69 patching with huge impacts on gameplay.
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Postby Magicco » Jun 16, 2012 19:25

Icharus wrote:(downloading DAOC live client as I write this...)


we stopped playing on uth and started on live since 4 days
its ton of fun :)
atm we play only trial acc's till we are in the modern state and than we reactivate our old acc's

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Postby holsten-knight » Jun 16, 2012 19:30

if the rvr would still be the old like on uthgard, without this ML, CL, Arte... bullshit i would gladly pay for it. But how live server rvr is nowadays it is now no alternative to uthgard for me. But just personal view. Have fun who goes to live, i bet you will come back some day :D

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Postby Ipnotik » Jun 16, 2012 19:55

and nerf nearsight too. kkthxbb

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Postby Blue » Jun 16, 2012 19:58

Uthgard will always target live servers back in the day as we are a declared classic server. As you mentioned Tajendi I can tell you again, Tajendi doesn't belong here too so don't expect Tajendi to be there forever.

And what we do IS patching to balancing. You will see and notice.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

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is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."


Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
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Postby Baman » Jun 16, 2012 20:24

Magicco wrote:well blue once stated he dont wanna a server with tons of people, he wants a 1.69 server



That's why he made a custom-change to not allow players to poison other people's weapons? :P That change didn't come til like 9 years into daoc. It's about as far from classic as you can get. If you're gonna be at the patch level where you can't poison people's weapons then you also have to implement maulers, MLs, CLs, labyrinth, warlock, vampire, toa-bonuses, dragonsworn bonuses, etc.

They make custom changes all the time that are completely un-classic; yet they make pointless changes that do nothing but inconvenience players (removing hasteners and barrels) in the name of being "classic"... It's absurdly hypocritical. They need to make up their minds one way or the other.

It's another case of all the decisions ABOUT the game being made by people who don't PLAY the game. I don't see why they can't just take polls on things like this.
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Postby Icharus » Jun 16, 2012 20:33

Baman wrote:They make custom changes all the time that are completely un-classic; yet they make pointless changes that do nothing but inconvenience players (removing hasteners and barrels) in the name of being "classic"... It's absurdly hypocritical. They need to make up their minds one way or the other.

It's another case of all the decisions ABOUT the game being made by people who don't PLAY the game. I don't see why they can't just take polls on things like this.


I hate to admit it to agreeing with Baman, but in this instance I couldn't agree more. The staff are hypocrites who claim "live-like" if they don't want to implement a change yet make custom changes all the time which only ****** off their player base.

I, for one am fed up with Blue's ego and hypocritical, condescending posture towards the player base. I would rather pay for a game to have FUN than to play a free game that only ****** me off and everything keeps becoming more and more of a grind and less and less like fun. He seems to forget that the primary reason we play games is to have FUN!! :wall:
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Postby Zarkor » Jun 16, 2012 20:35

Blue wrote:And what we do IS patching to balancing. You will see and notice.

Do you actually believe that yourself? I'd laugh if the situation wasn't so damn pathetic.


Oh and ... removing hasteners, barrels, archer LOS check.

Lmfao. I've always been amazed at how you guys ran this mess, but this is just too stupid for words.

Go on denying that your server is running dry for another year or two, really, it'll be lots of fun. Maybe you can find yourselves some more games to put the blame on. I mean, you guys run the "best" freeshard anyway, what could possibly touch your almighty position, amirite?



No wonder Zippity left so long ago... :roll:





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Postby Orihiime » Jun 16, 2012 20:52

Baman wrote:
Magicco wrote:well blue once stated he dont wanna a server with tons of people, he wants a 1.69 server



That's why he made a custom-change to not allow players to poison other people's weapons? :P That change didn't come til like 9 years into daoc. It's about as far from classic as you can get. If you're gonna be at the patch level where you can't poison people's weapons then you also have to implement maulers, MLs, CLs, labyrinth, warlock, vampire, toa-bonuses, dragonsworn bonuses, etc.

They make custom changes all the time that are completely un-classic; yet they make pointless changes that do nothing but inconvenience players (removing hasteners and barrels) in the name of being "classic"... It's absurdly hypocritical. They need to make up their minds one way or the other.

It's another case of all the decisions ABOUT the game being made by people who don't PLAY the game. I don't see why they can't just take polls on things like this.

Agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeee totally
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Postby Blue » Jun 16, 2012 21:31

So you agree to Baman? Should I search for the thread where all of you complained about poisoning? What a double moral in here. Wow.

Baman wrote:They make custom changes all the time that are completely un-classic

Please don't bent reality. The opposite is the case. Custom changes get removed more and more.

And now several players came up demanding custom changes for Viper, PD and different other stuff. If that ever comes make sure you don't complain again.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."


Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

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Postby Orihiime » Jun 16, 2012 21:35

Blue wrote:So you agree to Baman? Should I search for the thread where all of you complained about that issue? What a double moral in here. Wow.

plz do, ppl can complain, its still live like, you dont have to change it ^^. u bring crap change by justifying '' live like '' and then you make something other custom, just because you want, and you find others excuse than '' live like '' for justify it. Keep doing what you want, but stop justify everything with your excuse ^^
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Postby Blue » Jun 16, 2012 21:36

Orihiime wrote:
Blue wrote:So you agree to Baman? Should I search for the thread where all of you complained about that issue? What a double moral in here. Wow.

plz do, ppl can complain, its still live like, you dont have to change it ^^. u bring crap change by justifying '' live like '' and then you make something other custom, just because you want, and you find others excuse than '' live like '' for justify it. Keep doing what you want, but stop justify everything with your excuse ^^

This wasn't at all a crap change. It was the best solution for the poison problem. You are yourself guilty for demanding custom changes all the time when you talk to me.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."


Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

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